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zx



Joined: 21 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: next step? Reply with quote

Code:

+------------+-----------+-----------+
| 79  3  579 | 6  2  1   | 8  4   57 |
| 27  4  1   | 3  58 58  | 26 9   67 |
| 8   25 6   | 9  7  4   | 12 13  35 |
+------------+-----------+-----------+
| 5   7  3   | 4  1  2   | 9  6   8  |
| 6   1  2   | 78 89 789 | 3  5   4  |
| 4   89 89  | 5  6  3   | 7  2   1  |
+------------+-----------+-----------+
| 379 89 789 | 1  4  6   | 5  38  2  |
| 123 6  58  | 27 59 79  | 4  138 39 |
| 129 25 4   | 28 3  589 | 16 7   69 |
+------------+-----------+-----------+


Having trouble with the next step... been staring at this thing on and off for a few days. I usually can solve everything with X, XY, and XYZ wings. The UR in boxes 4 and 7 is there, but I prefer not to use them and I don't think that this one helps much anyway.

This is from here, btw, just a way oldie from dec. 26 06.

Thanks!
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be something simpler. But note the 39-59-35 XY-Wing pivoted in r8c9. Then transport the 5 pincer from r3c9 to r1c3 and remove the 5 from r8c3. I saw numerous XY-Wings that eliminate nothing.
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storm_norm



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
+------------+-----------+-----------+
| 379 89 789 | 1  4  6   | 5  38  2  |
| 123 6  58  | 27 59 79  | 4  138 39 |
|12-9 25 4   | 28 3  589 | 16 7   69 |
+------------+-----------+-----------+


this is the bottom third of the puzzle, look in row 7 in box 7. the 9 is locked into row 7. means the 9 can be eliminated from r9c1.

this leads to a "rare square" xy-wing
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zx



Joined: 21 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome, norm. i figured i was missing something simple like that, and it usually is that simple when i stare at a puzzle for hours. thanks.

the empty xy wings were mostly because i already caught them... there were a bunch in this puzzle. that minus 9 opens up a big xy wing in r9c1, r9c7, and r2c7, eliminating the 2 in r2c1. that does it.

thanks guys.
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