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keith



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Free Press May 29, 2009 Reply with quote

Code:
Puzzle: FP052909
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 6 | 2 . . | . . 7 |
| . 4 5 | . . . | . 6 . |
| . 9 1 | 4 . . | 5 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . . 7 | 9 . . |
| 9 . . | . 8 . | . . 2 |
| . . 8 | 5 . . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 3 | . . 5 | 2 4 . |
| . 8 . | . . . | 6 7 . |
| 5 . . | . . 9 | 8 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+

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Earl



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: freepress Reply with quote

Wow! I had to use an xy-chain and extend the (2) pincer.

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arkietech



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

withdrawn -- bad thinking
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using basics, my solver reduces the puzzle to this PM before wanting to use a 4-cell XY-Chain. Not happy with that choice, I tackled it manually. What I see is a UR Type 2 that doesn't perform any eliminations. But, there is another UR present in the same cells because of strong links on <4> in [r6].

Code:
 <46> UR Type ??? [r46c19] => [r4c1]<>6
 +-----------------------------------------------------+
 |  8    3    6    |  2    5    1    |  4    9    7    |
 |  2    4    5    |  9    7    8    |  13   6    13   |
 |  7    9    1    |  4    3    6    |  5    2    8    |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  346  5    24   |  136  12   7    |  9    8    46   |
 |  9    16   7    |  36   8    4    |  13   5    2    |
 |  346  126  8    |  5    9    23   |  7    13   46   |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  16   7    3    |  8    16   5    |  2    4    9    |
 |  14   8    9    |  13   124  23   |  6    7    5    |
 |  5    26   24   |  7    46   9    |  8    13   13   |
 +-----------------------------------------------------+
 # 31 eliminations remain

This is sufficient to expose an XY-Wing and a BUG+1 to complete the puzzle.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the hidden UR and XY-Wing, I'm here. As an alternative to the BUG, there's an XY-Wing Chain, 14-46-46-46-16.

Code:

+-----------+-----------+----------+
| 8  3   6  | 2  5   1  | 4  9  7  |
| 2  4   5  | 9  7   8  | 13 6  13 |
| 7  9   1  | 4  3   6  | 5  2  8  |
+-----------+-----------+----------+
| 3  5   24 | 16 12  7  | 9  8  46 |
| 9  16  7  | 36 8   4  | 13 5  2  |
| 46 12  8  | 5  9   23 | 7  13 46 |
+-----------+-----------+----------+
| 16 7   3  | 8  16  5  | 2  4  9  |
| 14 8   9  | 13 124 23 | 6  7  5  |
| 5  26  24 | 7  46  9  | 8  13 13 |
+-----------+-----------+----------+

Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
As an alternative to the BUG, there's an XY-Wing Chain, 14-46-64-46-61.

Why is this called an XY-Wing Chain Question

I don't see any sign of an XY-Wing among groupings of three adjacent cells.

It appears to be a conventional XY-Chain with a truncated Remote Pair pattern for the middle three cells.

[Green: edited for clarity.]
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After basics,

Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 8       3       6        | 2       5       1        | 4       9       7        |
| 2       4       5        | 9       7       8        | 13      6       13       |
| 7       9       1        | 4       3       6        | 5       2       8        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 3-46    5       24*      | 136     12#     7        | 9       8       46       |
| 9       16      7        | 36      8       4        | 13      5       2        |
| 3-46    126     8        | 5       9       23       | 7       13      46       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 16      7       3        | 8       16      5        | 2       4       9        |
| 14*     8       9        | 13      124#    23       | 6       7       5        |
| 5       26      2-4      | 7       46      9        | 8       13      13       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+

m-wing(4) r4c3=r8c1 [via (2) r4c5=r8c5]; r9c3,r4c1,r6c1 <> 4
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Why is this called an XY-Wing Chain


I call it that because that's what the site that I learned it from called it.

Quote:

I don't see any sign of an XY-Wing among groupings of three adjacent cells.

It appears to be a conventional XY-Chain with a truncated Remote Pair pattern for the middle three cells.


You're more of a theory guy than I am, but the three 46 cells work as if they were the XY cell of a conventional XY-Wing, with the 14 and 16 cells containing the pincers of 1.

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[Green: edited for clarity.]

Danny, I have no idea what is being clarified here. Question
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