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Puzzle 10/03/28 (B)

 
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Puzzle 10/03/28 (B) Reply with quote

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | . 2 . | . 1 3 | . . . |
 | 5 . 7 | 4 . . | . . . |
 | . 4 8 | . 5 . | . . 6 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . 7 . | 5 . . | . 6 . |
 | 4 . 6 | . . . | . . 2 |
 | 1 . . | . . 6 | . . 5 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . . | 2 . . |
 | . . . | 2 . . | . 1 4 |
 | . . 4 | . 8 1 | . 9 . |
 +-----------------------+

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peterj



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two steps... seemed to go down lots of deadends with other UR and HR

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x-wing(7) - I did this but I dont think it is needed for the next steps to solve the puzzle...
colouring 8
type 1 UR (23)

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arkietech



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used two steps also:
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w-wing 38
ur 23
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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Nice One danny Reply with quote

A 1 stepper ?

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A one stepper that is slightly different:

Checking the bivalues after basics I took a look at r7c8 which is <78> and noticed:

Set it to 7 thus:

(8=7)r7c8-r7c1=(7-8)r8c1=r8c2 so r8c2 becomes 8

Then set it it to 8 thus:

(7=8)r7c8-r7c9=r1c9-r1c4=r6c4-r6c2=r8c2 so r8c2 is still 8 !
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Nice One danny Reply with quote

Mogulmeister wrote:
A 1 stepper ?

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Checking the bivalues after basics I took a look at r7c8 which is <78> and noticed:

Set it to 7 thus:

(8=7)r7c8-r7c1=(7-8)r8c1=r8c2 so r8c2 becomes 8

Then set it it to 8 thus:

(7=8)r7c8-r7c9=r1c9-r1c4=r6c4-r6c2=r8c2 so r8c2 is still 8 !
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Nice find! Is this right?

(8)r8c2=r6c2-r6c4=r1c4-r1c9=r7c9-(8=7)r7c8-r7c1=(7-8)r8c1=(8)r8c2; r8c2=8

edited to correct
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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot on Dan!
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing new, I used five steps. Two Ws, Type 6 UR, X (7) and XY (893), flightless with pincer transport.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with the UR23 in r46c35. Looking at the implications outside the UR we find that:
Digit 2: we have a x-wing so no outside implications exist,
Digit 3: r4c7=3 or r6c4=3 or r6c7=3 to prevent the UR.
(3)r6c4 = (3)r46c7 - r5c78 = r5c5; r46c5<>3.

Next I found a finned Remote Pair 78 from r1c4 to r7c8 with fin 3 in r7c9.
If Remote Pair true, then r7c4<>7
If fin true, (3)r7c9 - (3=7)r9c9 - r1c9 = r1c4; r7c4<>7,
Thus both conditions delete 7 in r7c4. (and yes, I realize the x-wing on 7 deletes the same cell plus several others as well, but it was not as much fun.)

And finally, w-wing 78 in r1c9 & r8c1 with grouped strong link on 8 in r16c4 & b4 with pincer 7 in r8c1 transported to delete 7 in r9c9.

A fun puzzle looking for some unusual moves.

Ted
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