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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Puzzle 10/06/20: (B) XY |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+ | 8 5 . | 4 1 . | . . . |
 | 1 4 . | 5 . . | . . . |
 | . . 3 | 7 . . | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 6 3 8 | 2 . 7 | . . . |
 | 5 . . | . 8 . | . . . |
 | . . . | 6 . 3 | . . 8 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . . | 1 6 5 |
 | . . . | . . . | 4 2 . |
 | . . . | . . 4 | 7 . 9 |
 +-----------------------+
 
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  	  | Code: |  	  | after basics +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  8     5     279   |  4     1     269   |  36    379   267   |
 |  1     4     279   |  5     3     269   |  8     79    267   |
 |  29    6     3     |  7     29    8     |  5     14    14    |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  6     3     8     |  2     45    7     |  9     145   14    |
 |  5     27    24    |  9     8     1     |  36    347   67    |
 |  479   79    1     |  6     45    3     |  2     457   8     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  3479  789   49    |  38    279   29    |  1     6     5     |
 |  79    18    6     |  18    79    5     |  4     2     3     |
 |  23    12    5     |  13    6     4     |  7     8     9     |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 53 eliminations remain
 
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		| peterj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| First time through this solved using an x-wing and an xy-wing (and maybe a UR1) so went back to look for a more-xy one stepper.. 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | xy-chain (with ANP) (2=4)r5c3 - (4=79)r68c1 - (7=2)r3c1; r12c3<>2 | 
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ouch !!! _  _  _   
 I was so fixated on an interesting UR solution that I forgot to cross-check the other potential solutions. Here's what caught my attention:
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | after basics: the X-Wing is extraneous +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  8     5     279   |  4     1     269   |  36    379   267   |
 |  1     4     279   |  5     3     269   |  8     79    267   |
 |  29    6     3     |  7     29    8     |  5    *14   *14    |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  6     3     8     |  2    #45    7     |  9   #*145  *14    |
 |  5     27    24    |  9     8     1     |  36    347   67    |
 |  479   79    1     |  6    #45    3     |  2    #457   8     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  3479  789   49    |  38    279   29    |  1     6     5     |
 |  79    18    6     |  18    79    5     |  4     2     3     |
 |  23    12    5     |  13    6     4     |  7     8     9     |
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 # 53 eliminations remain
 
 (*) <14> UR r34c89   (overlapping)
 (#) <45> UR r46c58
 
 ( <14> UR says r4c8<>14 ) and ( <45> UR says r4c8=1 or r6c8=7 )
 
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 Together, they force r6c8=7 and the puzzle cracks with singles remaining.
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		| peterj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's the second of these overlapping URs in as many days... need to up my game on looking for UR moves, just doesn't come naturally! 
 And you have to play them concurrently for the elimination to appear..
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I think that is what makes this a good puzzle - I too do not automatically look for uniqueness solutions - this one is elegant. 
 Fwiw, I saw an almost XY Wing <479> formation r68c1,r7c3 with the fin being 9 in r6c1.
 
 If fin is TRUE (47=9)r6c1-(9=2)r3c1-r12c3=(2-4)r5c3 so r5c3<>4
 
 If fin is FALSE then xy-wing<479> and r5c3<>4
 
 Either way puzzle solved.
 
 We know that the fin can not be 9 because the fin = TRUE chain would create no 4 in b4.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Type 1 UR (14) W-Wing (29) uses both numbers and both were also transported
 X-Wing (9)
 UR (27) in boxes 13; either DP killer forces r8c1=9
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