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Puzzle 10/07/22: BBDB Salsa

 
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Puzzle 10/07/22: BBDB Salsa Reply with quote

Salsa Breaker wrote:
The 3rd UR overlaps the 2nd UR and is easily lost after performing the 2nd UR. But the fun doesn't stop there.

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 9 . . | . . . | 7 . . |
 | . 6 . | 3 4 7 | 9 . 1 |
 | . . 3 | . 2 . | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . 9 . | . . . | 4 . . |
 | . 2 4 | . . 3 | . 7 9 |
 | . 7 . | . 9 . | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 6 1 . | 4 . . | . 9 . |
 | . . . | . 3 . | 1 . . |
 | . 3 . | . 8 . | . . 4 |
 +-----------------------+

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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dodged the uniqueness tests because I'm chicken.....

Quote:
Two Stepper to start with....

1. A quasi General Remote Pair <58> pincered at r8c2 and r2c8. The fortuitously placed 568 triples at r3c79 help out so that when one of the pincers is 5 the other is 8. Thus r8c8 <> 58.

2.Colouring on 8s r2c8<>8
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W-Wing (58) with strong links and eliminations on both numbers
Type 1 UR (19)
Skyscraper (8)
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peterj



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Initially I did the same moves as mm and Marty - though I spotted it as a grouped kite on both the 5 and 8.

I went back to try the UR moves but failed! I saw a UR1(19), UR1(58) extraneous, UR4(13) which overlapped with some UR(23) (but not in a helpful way for me!), a hidden UR(78) which opened an xy-wing .. and a bunch of useless DP(58).

Look forward to learning!!
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterj wrote:
Look forward to learning!!

I'm going to assume that you'd like to see my solution. Hold on tight. Very Happy

This puzzle offers several UR eliminations. Ignoring/missing a strong link UR initially doesn't help!

Code:
 after basics
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  9       4       1       |  568     56      568     |  7       23      23      |
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58      1       |
 |  7       58      3       |  19      2       19      |  568     4       568     |
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 |  1358    9       568     |  25678   1567    2568    |  4       123568  23568   |
 |  158     2       4       |  568     156     3       |  568     7       9       |
 |  1358    7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   123568  23568   |
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 |  6       1       2578    |  4       57      25      |  2358    9       23578   |
 |  4       58      25789   |  25679   3       256     |  1       258     2578    |
 |  25      3       79      |  179     8       19      |  256     256     4       |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 109 eliminations remain

 r39c46  <19> UR Type 1.2223             r9c4<>19
 r89c34  <79> UR via s-link              r8c3<>7    ignored initially

 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  9       4       1       |  58      6       58      |  7       23      23      |
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58      1       |
 |  7       58      3       |  1       2       9       |  568     4       568     |
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 |  13      9       568     |  2568    7       58      |  4       123568  23568   |
 |  58      2       4       |  568     1       3       |  568     7       9       |
 |  13      7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   123568  23568   |
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 |  6       1       78      |  4       5       2       |  38      9       378     |
 |  4       58      258-7   | *9       3       6       |  1       258     2578    |
 |  25      3      *9       | *7       8       1       |  256     256     4       |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 72 eliminations remain

 r14c46  <58> UR Type 1.2224             r4c4<>58   extraneous
-and-
 r46c18  <13> UR Type 3.2266             r1c8<>2    extraneous & equivalent
 r46c18  <13> UR Type 4.2266             r46c8<>3   extraneous
-and-
 r89c34  <79> UR Type 1.1114 ***         r8c3<>7    still need to deal with elimination

   c2b3  Empty Rectangle                 <> 5    r8c8   -or-
 r2c2    2-String Kite (grouped)         <> 5    r8c8

 c18r2   Colors/Sashimi X-Wing           <> 8    r5c7

Technically, this isn't a BBDB because it can be solved in less than five steps. However, I rated it as BBDB because of all the possible tangent steps.

I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daj95376 wrote:

Code:
 after basics
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  9       4       1       |  568     56      568     |  7       (23)       (23)    |
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58         1       |
 |  7       58      3       |  19      2       19      |  568     4          568     |
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+-----------------------------|
 |  1358    9       568     |  25678   1567    2568    |  4       (2358)+16  (2358)+6|
 |  158     2       4       |  568     156     3       |  568     7          9       |
 |  1358    7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   (2358)+16  (2358)+6|
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+-----------------------------|
 |  6       1       2578    |  4       57      25      |  2358    9          23578   |
 |  4       58      25789   |  25679   3       256     |  1       (258)      (258)+7 |
 |  25      3       79      |  179     8       19      |  256     256       4        |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+


I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics.


Is this a MUG(2358) ?

Ted
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:
daj95376 wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics.

Is this a MUG(2358) ?

I think so, but what I meant by find was an elimination associated with a MUG. _ Smile _
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