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Clement
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: Dar es Salaam Tanzania
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: Feb 5 VH |
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After the Basics Code: | [code]
+-----------+---------+------------+
| 6 5 1 | 9 4 7 | 8 2 3 |
| 8 7 2 | 1 6 3 | 4 9 5 |
| 4 3 9 | 2 8 5 | 16 17 67 |
+-----------+---------+------------+
| 59 28 358 | 7 19 6 | 15 34 24 |
| 1 6 4 | 3 5 2 | 7 8 9 |
| 7 29 35 | 4 19 8 | 156 13 26 |
+-----------+---------+------------+
| 59 1 6 | 8 3 49 | 2 457 47 |
| 3 4 7 | 5 2 1 | 9 6 8 |
| 2 89 58 | 6 7 49 | 3 45 1 |
+-----------+---------+------------+
[/code]BUG+2
Either r6c7=1 or r7c8=4
By the following chains
If r6c7=1 =>r6c8=3 =>r4c8=4 =>r9c8=5
If r7c8=4 =>r9c8=5. We deduce that r9c8=5 which solves it. |
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hughwill
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 424 Location: Birmingham UK
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Code: |
+----------+---------+------------+
| 6 5 1 | 9 4 7 | 8 2 3 |
| 8 7 2 | 1 6 3 | 4 9 5 |
| 4 3 9 | 2 8 5 | 16 17 67 |
+----------+---------+------------+
| 59 28 38 | 7 19 6 | 15 34 24 |
| 1 6 4 | 3 5 2 | 7 8 9 |
| 7 29 35 | 4 19 8 | 156 13 26 |
+----------+---------+------------+
| 59 1 6 | 8 3 49 | 2 457 47 |
| 3 4 7 | 5 2 1 | 9 6 8 |
| 2 89 58 | 6 7 49 | 3 45 1 |
+----------+---------+------------+
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
There's a naked triple 159 on r4 to come out in basics. (see grid)
A 135 XY centred on r6c8
also sorts out the puzzle (select text to reveal) |
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kuskey
Joined: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 141 Location: Pembroke, NH
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: Feb 5 VH |
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The solution that leaps off the grid is the 135 xy-wing with pivot at r6c8 setting r4c1 and r6c7<>5.
Clement, your basic work is not quite complete--after taking the 159 triple in r4, r4c3<>5. Now if you assume r7c8=4, you force a conflict in 4s at r4c8. IMHO, the correct solution for the BUG+2 is r6c7=1. |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Clement, your basic work is not quite complete--after taking the 159 triple in r4, r4c3<>5. Now if you assume r7c8=4, you force a conflict in 4s at r4c8. IMHO, the correct solution for the BUG+2 is r6c7=1. |
I don't know that there's such a thing as a "correct" solution for a BUG+2. Any valid technique that works is correct.
For example, on all BUGs+2 I get greater enjoyment from using pincers. We have the two possibilities of 1 and 4. The 1 proves a 4 in r4c8, which with the 4 in r7c8 sets r9c8<>4.
Or the 4 proves 1 in r6c8, which with the 1 in r6c7 sets r6c5<>1.
There are additional possibilities with pincers as well, such as the 4 proving a 1 in r4c5.
Neither these nor Clement's solution are "incorrect." |
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Clement
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: Dar es Salaam Tanzania
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: Feb 5 VH |
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kuskey, it depends on which path you take. For example in this puzzle there are 8 cells which come out with the the same solution whether r6c7=1 or r7c8=4. These are the true solutions to those cells, e.g r4c1=9 whatever the choice of the solution in r6c7 and r7c8 as explained above, but, it is a long path. I decided to take a short path. |
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