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Times summer special 2007 nr. 28

 
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nataraj



Joined: 03 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Times summer special 2007 nr. 28 Reply with quote

If this has been discussed before, forgive me.

This puzzle appeared in the summer 2007 special collection of the Times.

Code:

+---------------+----------------+----------------+
| .   9    7    | .    .    6    | 5    2    .    |
| 5   2    .    | .    .    7    | 9    .    .    |
| .   .    .    | .    5    .    | .    7    .    |
+---------------+----------------+----------------+
| .   .    .    | 7    9    .    | 3    1    .    |
| .   .    .    | .    .    .    | .    .    .    |
| .   4    3    | .    2    1    | .    .    .    |
+---------------+----------------+----------------+
| .   1    .    | .    6    .    | .    .    .    |
| .   .    2    | 9    .    .    | .    8    1    |
| .   8    6    | 3    .    .    | 7    5    .    |
+---------------+----------------+----------------+

It took me a rather long xy chain '42'(77)='24'(57)='49'(58 )='96'(68 ) ='69'(61)='94'(91)
to eliminate 4 from r9c9.

This is the position:
Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 138     9       7        | 148     348     6        | 5       2       348      |
| 5       2       148      | 148     348     7        | 9       346     3468     |
| 368     36      48       | 2       5       9        | 1       7       348      |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 268     56      58       | 7       9       48       | 3       1       2456     |
| 1289    7       1589     | 6       48      3        | 24      49      245      |
| 69      4       3        | 5       2       1        | 8       69      7        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 7       1       59       | 48      6       258      | 24      34      2349     |
| 34      35      2        | 9       7       45       | 6       8       1        |
| 49      8       6        | 3       1       24       | 7       5       249      |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+

This one was the hardest of them all, much harder than the usual "super fiendish".

Any other ways to solve it? I looked for xy wing, w wing finned fish and stuff. nada.
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Asellus



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nataraj,

The fish must not have been biting for you today!

My initial position is a bit different from yours. (You made some eliminations that I don't see with basic steps.) However, it doesn't matter:
Code:
+--------------+---------------+--------------+
|@1348 9  7    | 148 348  6    | 5  2   @348  |
| 5    2  148  | 148 348  7    | 9  346 @3468 |
|@3468 36 48   | 2   5    9    | 1  7   @348  |
+--------------+---------------+--------------+
| 268  56 58   | 7   9   #48   | 3  1   #2456 |
| 1289 7  1589 | 6   48   3    | 24 49  @2459 |
| 69   4  3    | 5   2    1    | 8  69   7    |
+--------------+---------------+--------------+
| 7    1  459  | 48  6   @2458 | 24 349 @2349 |
|#34   35 2    | 9   7   #45   | 6  8    1    |
|#49   8  6    | 3   1   #24   | 7  5   #249  |
+--------------+---------------+--------------+

There is a Swordfish on <4> in R489, marked #. It eliminates all the <4>s in the cells marked @ and the puzzle is solved in one step.
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can the fishing be good when one's gear is in dire need of repair?

And you, Asellus, you made me realize a serious flaw in my sudoku-solving technique: I was so used to look at x-wing and swordfish as just some special cases of AICs that I completely stopped looking for swordfish patterns where there are more than 2 cells in a row (col).

Now when you pointed out the swordfish to me, not only did the solution become obvious, it brought me back on the path of virtue.

Hail, Asellus! Very Happy
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