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CORUJA



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: 29 May, VH Reply with quote

Earl,
I'm stuck exactly at the point yo were on May 30: can't get rid of the 2 in R1.
Please help me! Thanks.
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dulaby



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coruja,tudo bem? .
Repare que existe uma xy-wing em r1c3(7Cool,r4c3(37) e r4c5(3Cool e o <8> sai de r1c5 ,portanto r1c4 tem que ser <2>.Isso resolve a sua duvida?
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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do need those sunglasses in sunny Brazil ! Cool

Dulaby, the 8 followed by a ) produces that smiley. You're better off using square [] brackets.
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Earl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: May 29 Reply with quote

Coruga,

If you show me the grid, I might be able to help.

Without the particular situation, my memory is untrustworthy.

Earl
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CORUJA



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: MAY 29 VH Reply with quote

Earl,
I'm still at this point, and can't see how to get rid of the 2 in R1C3 , in R1C5 and in R1C8.
Thanks again.

Code:

+------------+--------------+------------+
| 4  6   278 | 257  258 3   | 9   125 15 |
| 3  9   278 | 1    258 78  | 678 256 4  |
| 5  278 1   | 6    4   9   | 378 23  37 |
+------------+--------------+------------+
| 9  4   37  | 357  358 678 | 2   136 16 |
| 27 1   6   | 2379 239 4   | 5   8   37 |
| 8  237 5   | 237  1   67  | 367 4   9  |
+------------+--------------+------------+
| 6  38  389 | 4    7   5   | 1   39  2  |
| 1  5   39  | 39   6   2   | 4   7   8  |
| 27 27  4   | 8    39  1   | 36  356 56 |
+------------+--------------+------------+
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: MAY 29 VH Reply with quote

CORUJA wrote:
Earl,
I'm still at this point, and can't see how to get rid of the 2 in R1C3 , in R1C5 and in R1C8.
Thanks again.

Code:

+------------+--------------+------------+
| 4  6   278 | 257  258 3   | 9   125 15 |
| 3  9   278 | 1    258 78  | 678 256 4  |
| 5  278 1   | 6    4   9   | 378 23  37 |
+------------+--------------+------------+
| 9  4   37  | 357  358 678 | 2   136 16 |
| 27 1   6   | 2379 239 4   | 5   8   37 |
| 8  237 5   | 237  1   67  | 367 4   9  |
+------------+--------------+------------+
| 6  38  389 | 4    7   5   | 1   39  2  |
| 1  5   39  | 39   6   2   | 4   7   8  |
| 27 27  4   | 8    39  1   | 36  356 56 |
+------------+--------------+------------+


I don't know if this specifically answers the question, but there is a basic move that needs to be made. In column 3 the only place for a 2 is in box 1. Thus the 2 must be removed from r3c2. This leaves a 378 triple (or a sole 2) in row 3 which sets off a chain of additional moves.
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Earl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: May 29 Reply with quote

Coruja,

Now I recall.
First the 9 in r9c5 is unique which leads to a solution of all 9's.

Then the 2's in r1c3, r2c3 are unique to c3, eliminating the 2 from r3c2.
That makes the 2 in r3c8 unique and opens up the puzzle.

You can eliminate the 3 in r4c5 by the xy wing r4c3, r5c1 r5c5.

Rest is straight forward.

Earl
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CORUJA



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: 29 May, VH Reply with quote

Earl and Marty,

thank you sooooo much!! I really overlooked the basic move that eliminates the 2 from R3C2.
Coruja.
Very Happy
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CORUJA



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: 29 MAY, VH Reply with quote

Olá dulaby,


muito obrigada pela sua sugestão, que utilizei após eliminar o 2 da R3C2 com a ajuda do Earl e do Marty.
Coruja.
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