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Puzzle 10/01/21 (A)

 
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Puzzle 10/01/21 (A) Reply with quote

Warm up.

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 2 . . | . 9 . | . . . |
 | . 4 . | . 2 . | . 9 5 |
 | . . 7 | . . . | 4 . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | 6 . . | . 5 . |
 | 8 5 . | . 7 . | 2 . . |
 | . . . | . . 5 | . 1 3 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . 6 | . 4 . | 5 . . |
 | . 8 . | 1 . 2 | . 6 . |
 | . 1 . | . . 9 | . . . |
 +-----------------------+

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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was ready to throw in the towel, but I decided to play what I thought was a useless move, a Hidden UR on 16. That opened up an XYZ (137), XY (673), Type 2 UR (37-8) and an XYZ (357).
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty: Two steps. One VH and the other VH+.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a move that looks like a xyz-wing but has four digits in the pivot cell.

Code:
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 2     36    5     | 4     9     1-368 | 16    378   78    |
 | 136   4     8     | 37    2    #1367  | 16    9     5     |
 | 1369  369   7     | 358   135   1-368 | 4     238   28    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 37    237   1239  | 6     13    4     | 789   5     789   |
 | 8     5     13    | 9     7     13    | 2     4     6     |
 | 467   67    49    | 2     8     5     | 79    1     3     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 379   2379  6     | 378   4     378   | 5     278   1     |
 | 3457  8     34    | 1     35    2     | 379   6     479   |
 | 3457  1     234   | 3578  6     9     | 378   278   2478  |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*


The pivot cell is r2c6 containing the digits 1367, marked #.
(1)r2c6 - (1=3)r5c6 - (3)r1c6,
(3)r2c6 - (3)r1c6,
(6)r2c6 - (6)r2c7 = (6)r1c7 - (6=3)r1c2 - (3)r1c6,
(7)r2c6 - (7=3)r2c4 - (3)r1c6.
All four values in r2c6 result in r1c6<>3

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!

Now look at the same pivot cell again.
(1)r2c6 - (1=3)r5c6 - (3)r3c6,
(3)r2c6 - (3)r3c6,
(6)r2c6 - (6)r2c7 = (6)r1c7 - (6=3)r1c2 - (3)r1c8 = (3)r3c8 - (3)r3c6,
(7)r2c6 - (7=3)r2c4 - (3)r3c6.
All four values in r2c6 result in r3c6<>3.

Neither of these two moves seemed to help solve the puzzle, but are unusual. Is this just a one-time weird circumstance, or is it a recognized pattern?

My solution was a three stepper.
xy-wing -367
kite 3,
a Type 1 6-cell DP in r123c167.

Ted
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted,

Congratulations on your find!

Your technique is a "forcing chain with four streams" from a single cell. This approach is seldom used anymore ... especially since everyone wants to pack everything into as complicated of an AIC as they can create. The only time I see forcing chains used is when a UR is involved and there are a couple of extra candidates present.

Your solution can be compacted some.

Code:
(1)r2c6 - (1=3)r5c6 - (3)r13c6
(3)r2c6 - (3)r13c6
(7)r2c6 - (7=3)r2c4 - (3)r13c6

(6)r2c6 - (6)r2c7 = (6)r1c7 - (6=3)r1c2 -                     (3)r1c6
                                   ||   - (3)r1c8 = (3)r3c8 - (3)r3c6

Personally, I like forcing chains ... but I use them on a single candidate value across all the cells containing it in a row/column/box.

Regards, Danny

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I can't believe the solutions for this puzzle. I really meant it when I called it a "warm up" puzzle.

Code:
 <67+3>  XY-Wing  r6c2/r1c2+r4c1         <> 3    r23c1,r4c2

 r5c5    2-String Kite                   <> 3    r8c3   -or-
 r7c5    2-String Kite                   <> 3    r4c1

The XY-Wing seems to have been the stumbling block. Hmmm.
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