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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Puzzle 10/07/22: BBDB Salsa | 
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				 	  | Salsa Breaker wrote: | 	 		  The 3rd UR overlaps the 2nd UR and is easily lost after performing the 2nd UR. But the fun doesn't stop there.
 
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 | 9 . . | . . . | 7 . . |
 
 | . 6 . | 3 4 7 | 9 . 1 |
 
 | . . 3 | . 2 . | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 9 . | . . . | 4 . . |
 
 | . 2 4 | . . 3 | . 7 9 |
 
 | . 7 . | . 9 . | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | 6 1 . | 4 . . | . 9 . |
 
 | . . . | . 3 . | 1 . . |
 
 | . 3 . | . 8 . | . . 4 |
 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I dodged the uniqueness tests because I'm chicken.....
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  Two Stepper to start with....
 
 
1. A quasi General Remote Pair <58> pincered at r8c2 and r2c8. The fortuitously placed 568 triples at r3c79 help out so that when one of the pincers is 5 the other is 8.  Thus r8c8 <> 58.
 
 
2.Colouring on 8s r2c8<>8  | 	 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				W-Wing (58) with strong links and eliminations on both numbers
 
Type 1 UR (19)
 
Skyscraper (8) | 
			 
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		peterj
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Initially I did the same moves as mm and Marty - though I spotted it as a grouped kite on both the 5 and 8.
 
 
I went back to try the UR moves but failed! I saw a UR1(19), UR1(58) extraneous, UR4(13) which overlapped with some UR(23) (but not in a helpful way for me!), a hidden UR(78) which opened an xy-wing .. and a bunch of useless DP(58). 
 
 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | peterj wrote: | 	 		  | Look forward to learning!! | 	  
 
I'm going to assume that you'd like to see my solution. Hold on tight.    
 
 
This puzzle offers several UR eliminations. Ignoring/missing a strong link UR initially doesn't help!
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   after basics
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  9       4       1       |  568     56      568     |  7       23      23      |
 
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58      1       |
 
 |  7       58      3       |  19      2       19      |  568     4       568     |
 
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 
 |  1358    9       568     |  25678   1567    2568    |  4       123568  23568   |
 
 |  158     2       4       |  568     156     3       |  568     7       9       |
 
 |  1358    7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   123568  23568   |
 
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 
 |  6       1       2578    |  4       57      25      |  2358    9       23578   |
 
 |  4       58      25789   |  25679   3       256     |  1       258     2578    |
 
 |  25      3       79      |  179     8       19      |  256     256     4       |
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 # 109 eliminations remain
 
 
 r39c46  <19> UR Type 1.2223             r9c4<>19
 
 r89c34  <79> UR via s-link              r8c3<>7    ignored initially
 
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  9       4       1       |  58      6       58      |  7       23      23      |
 
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58      1       |
 
 |  7       58      3       |  1       2       9       |  568     4       568     |
 
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 |  13      9       568     |  2568    7       58      |  4       123568  23568   |
 
 |  58      2       4       |  568     1       3       |  568     7       9       |
 
 |  13      7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   123568  23568   |
 
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
 
 |  6       1       78      |  4       5       2       |  38      9       378     |
 
 |  4       58      258-7   | *9       3       6       |  1       258     2578    |
 
 |  25      3      *9       | *7       8       1       |  256     256     4       |
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 # 72 eliminations remain
 
 
 r14c46  <58> UR Type 1.2224             r4c4<>58   extraneous
 
-and-
 
 r46c18  <13> UR Type 3.2266             r1c8<>2    extraneous & equivalent
 
 r46c18  <13> UR Type 4.2266             r46c8<>3   extraneous
 
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 r89c34  <79> UR Type 1.1114 ***         r8c3<>7    still need to deal with elimination
 
 
   c2b3  Empty Rectangle                 <> 5    r8c8   -or-
 
 r2c2    2-String Kite (grouped)         <> 5    r8c8
 
 
 c18r2   Colors/Sashimi X-Wing           <> 8    r5c7
 
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Technically, this isn't a BBDB because it can be solved in less than five steps. However, I rated it as BBDB because of all the possible tangent steps.
 
 
I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics. | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   after basics
 
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  9       4       1       |  568     56      568     |  7       (23)       (23)    |
 
 |  258     6       258     |  3       4       7       |  9       58         1       |
 
 |  7       58      3       |  19      2       19      |  568     4          568     |
 
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+-----------------------------|
 
 |  1358    9       568     |  25678   1567    2568    |  4       (2358)+16  (2358)+6|
 
 |  158     2       4       |  568     156     3       |  568     7          9       |
 
 |  1358    7       568     |  2568    9       4       |  23568   (2358)+16  (2358)+6|
 
 |--------------------------+--------------------------+-----------------------------|
 
 |  6       1       2578    |  4       57      25      |  2358    9          23578   |
 
 |  4       58      25789   |  25679   3       256     |  1       (258)      (258)+7 |
 
 |  25      3       79      |  179     8       19      |  256     256       4        |
 
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I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics. | 	  
 
 
Is this a MUG(2358) ?
 
 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | tlanglet wrote: | 	 		   	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  | I'm still waiting for someone to find a MUG in the grid after basics. | 	  
 
Is this a MUG(2358) ?
 
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I think so, but what I meant by find was an elimination associated with a MUG. _   _ | 
			 
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