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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Vanhagen Extreme Nov 18 |   |  
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				| Another Vanhegan that seems to have numerous chains..... 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+
 | 2 . . | 5 . . | 6 . 4 |
 | . 1 7 | 6 . . | . 5 . |
 | 9 . . | . . 4 | . 8 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . 8 | . . . | . 3 2 |
 | . . . | . 4 . | . . . |
 | 1 3 . | . . . | 7 . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 2 . | 7 . . | . . 5 |
 | . 6 . | . . 1 | 3 2 . |
 | 3 . 5 | . . 2 | . . 7 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | (6=9)r4c5-r7c5=r7c78-(9=8)r8c9-r9c7=(8-5)r5c7=r4c7-(5=6)r4c1; r4c6<>6 
 (3=2)r3c4-(2=1)r3c7-r9c7=(1-6)r9c8=r7c8-(6=3)r7c6; r2c6<>3
 
 Kraken cell (249)r6c3; r4c2<>9
 (2)r6c2-(2=9)r5c3;
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 (4)r6c3-(4=9)r6c8-(9=1)r5c8-r9c8=(1-8)r9c7=r8c9-r56c9=(8-5)r5c7=r4c7-(5=6)r4c1-(6=9)r4c5;
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 (9)r6c3;
 
 AXY-wing -369 vertex (69)r4c5, pincers (36)r5c6 & (39)r7c5 with fin (6)r7c5; r7c6<>3
 xy-wing =(6)r7c5-(6=8)r9c5-(8=1)r9c7-(1=2)r3c7-(2=3)r3c4-r5c4=(3)r5c6
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
 Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I often have trouble with Vanhegan extremes, but this wasn't one of them. I did it a second time because I didn't trust myself. 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | XYZ-Wing (369); r9c5<>6 | 
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		| keith 
 
 
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 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Marty beat me to it!  After basics: Keith 	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 2     8     3     | 5     1     9     | 6     7     4     |
 | 4     1     7     | 6     238   38    | 29    5     39    |
 | 9     5     6     | 23    7     4     | 12    8     13    |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 56    479   8     | 19    69    67    | 1459  3     2     |
 | 56    79    29    | 12389 4     3678  | 1589  19    1689  |
 | 1     3     249   | 289   2689  5     | 7     49    689   |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 8     2     1     | 7     369   36    | 49    469   5     |
 | 7     6     49    | 489   5     1     | 3     2     89    |
 | 3     49    5     | 489   689   2     | 189   169   7     |
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		| peterj 
 
 
 Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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 Location: London, UK
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I missed the xyz-wing - I think the "Extreme" rating sent me looking at chains too early..  (Nice spot, Marty  ) 
 Here's an ANP that also solves it..
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | ANP(49=6)r7c78 - (6=3)r7c6 - r7c5=r2c5 - (3=9)r2c9 ; r8c9<>9 
 .. or written as a w-wing (for fun)...
 w-wing(39)/als ; (946=3)r7c678 - r7c5=r2c5 - (3=9)r2c9
 
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Using Keith's grid and reviewing Peter's chain: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 2     8     3     | 5     1     9     | 6     7     4     |
 | 4     1     7     | 6     238   38    | 29    5     39    |
 | 9     5     6     | 23    7     4     | 12    8     13    |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 56    479   8     | 19    69    67    | 1459  3     2     |
 | 56    79    29    | 12389 4     3678  | 1589  19    1689  |
 | 1     3     249   | 289   2689  5     | 7     49    689   |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 8     2     1     | 7     369   36    | 49    469   5     |
 | 7     6     49    | 489   5     1     | 3     2     89    |
 | 3     49    5     | 489   689   2     | 189   169   7     |
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 ANP(49=6)r7c78 - (6=3)r7c6 - r7c5=r2c5 - (3=9)r2c9 ; r8c9<>9
 
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 I had a feeling that an alternate perspective existed. Finally, it hit me:
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | (9)r7c78 = (9-3)r7c5 = r2c5 - (3=9)r2c9 ; r8c9<>9 
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 Which is the "reverse" of an M-Wing Type 3A.
 
 
 
 Yes, Congratulations Marty on finding that solitary XYZ-Wing!
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