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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: DT Diabolical 031816 | 
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				And here is the Daily Telegraph's Diabolical from yesterday. 	  | Code: | 	 		  Puzzle: DT Diabolical 031816 #3496
 
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| 9 . . | . . . | . . . | 
 
| 7 4 1 | . . . | 5 . . | 
 
| 5 . . | 7 . . | . 2 . | 
 
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| . . . | 2 . 6 | . . . | 
 
| . 9 3 | . . . | 6 4 . | 
 
| . . . | 4 . 1 | . . . | 
 
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| 6 1 . | . . 5 | . . 9 | 
 
| . . 5 | . . . | 7 1 . | 
 
| 4 . . | . . . | . . 3 | 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:14 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Spoiler ahead:
 
 
My after basics:
 
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| 9   23  28  | 158 158 4   | 13  6   7   | 
 
| 7   4   1   | 69  26  239 | 5   39  8   | 
 
| 5   36  68  | 7   18  39  | 139 2   4   | 
 
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| 18  57  4   | 2   39  6   | 389 379 15  | 
 
| 12  9   3   | 58  578 78  | 6   4   12  | 
 
| 28  567 67  | 4   39  1   | 389 379 25  | 
 
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| 6   1   27  | 3   27  5   | 4   8   9   | 
 
| 3   28  5   | 89  4   29  | 7   1   6   | 
 
| 4   78  9   | 16  16  78  | 2   5   3   | 
 
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 | 	  It's a slog to get even there!
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:01 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I used Keith's basics.
 
 
DP (58) r15c45
 
 
Using a mix of internals and externals
 
 
8r3c5=7r5c5=> 7 common outcomes
 
 
(Sorry, no notation). | 
			 
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		dongrave
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Darn it all Marty!  You make it look so easy!  This one took me a long long long time and I began with Keith's grid.
 
9r2c4-r2c8=(9-1)r3c7=r3c5-(1=6)r9c5-(6=2)r2c5-(2=39)r23c6-9r2c4; contradiction => r2c4<>9; stte (I think). | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | dongrave wrote: | 	 		  Darn it all Marty!  You make it look so easy!  This one took me a long long long time and I began with Keith's grid.
 
9r2c4-r2c8=(9-1)r3c7=r3c5-(1=6)r9c5-(6=2)r2c5-(2=39)r23c6-9r2c4; contradiction => r2c4<>9; stte (I think). | 	  
 
 
Don, I took the liberty of offering up an alternative, changes in red. 
 
 
(6=9)r2c4-r2c8=(9-1)r3c7=r3c5-(1=6)r9c5-(6=2)r2c5-(2=396)r23c6r2c4 | 
			 
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		JC Van Hay
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:01 am    Post subject:  | 
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				A shorter version of the previous chains :
 
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| 9   23   28 | 158   158   4   | 13     6     7  |
 
| 7   4    1  | (69)  2-6   239 | 5      3(9)  8  |
 
| 5   36   68 | 7     8(1)  39  | 3(19)  2     4  |
 
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| 18  57   4  | 2     39    6   | 389    379   15 |
 
| 12  9    3  | 58    578   78  | 6      4     12 |
 
| 28  567  67 | 4     39    1   | 389    379   25 |
 
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| 6   1    27 | 3     27    5   | 4      8     9  |
 
| 3   28   5  | 89    4     29  | 7      1     6  |
 
| 4   78   9  | 1-6   (16)  78  | 2      5     3  |
 
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 | 	  (6=9)r2c4-9r2c8=(9-1)r3c7=1r3c5-(1=6)r9c5 -> -6r2c5,r9c4; stte | 
			 
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		dongrave
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Oh!  Cool!  I like it!  Thanks Marty and JC! | 
			 
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