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  Topic: Difficulty of a SuDoku position
schwa

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PostForum: General discussion   Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:53 pm   Subject: Difficulty of a SuDoku position
I think the product, rather than the sum, might be a better measure.

Or take the log of the product, if you like.

What do you think of that idea?

--Joshua
  Topic: Help.......
schwa

Replies: 4
Views: 44553

PostForum: Other puzzles   Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:02 pm   Subject: Help.......
Looking at that column 8, the topmost thing can only be 6 or 9. Also in row 7, that spot can only be 6 or 9. Therefore, among those two spots, the 6 and the 9 get used up: 6 and 9 must be the 1st an ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

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PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:10 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.
For the difficulty:

Entropy would be the log of the product of the number of possibilities for each square. That would be a fine measure. The question is, when to measure it? Certainly you should ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

Replies: 25
Views: 176925

PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:34 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.

Both programs, yours and my, are solving what can be solved without using a "look ahead" technique (I am almost sure).

I have a feeling that there are still more ideas out there of how to analyze th ...
  Topic: Help.......
schwa

Replies: 4
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PostForum: Other puzzles   Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:55 pm   Subject: Help.......
After crossing off the "obvious" possibilities (that is, eliminating from the row and column all the numbers that are already used) you should find that in that -x- spot you have only 3 and 9 as optio ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

Replies: 25
Views: 176925

PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:15 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.
Here an additional one to compare our programs:

020000000
000600003
074080000
000003002
080040010
600500000
000010780
500009000
000000040

For this one it has found "only" 8 numbers.
We can exchange ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

Replies: 25
Views: 176925

PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:07 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.
For the first one, my program gives


17 4 3 9 8 67 2 5 167
6 789 1789 4 2 5 138 38 178
2 578 578 37 36 1 68 9 4
9 568 2568 13 13 ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

Replies: 25
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PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:37 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.
Indeed, there was a (in hindsight obvious!) bug in the "box rule".

Now, with the two rules I mentioned in the previous post, there's not a sudoku I've found that can't be solved. In fact, I've only ...
  Topic: Program doesn't solve it.
schwa

Replies: 25
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PostForum: Daily Sudoku puzzles   Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:22 pm   Subject: Program doesn't solve it.
Thanks Steve!

I thought I had coded that rule as my rule 2: I call it the "box rule", that if a row intersects a box, and a certain digit only appears as a possibility in the intersection but nowhere ...
 
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