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Historical daily sudoku puzzles: Nov 2,4,8 2006

 
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Historical daily sudoku puzzles: Nov 2,4,8 2006 Reply with quote

There is a gaping hole in the history of this forum between November 2006 and February 2007. Now I've started to do the "missing" puzzles, but it seems like x-wing was the only technique deemed "very hard" then ...

Nov 2: xwing (on 2, rows 2 and 6)
Nov 4: basics only
Nov 8: xwing (on 1, cols 1 and 6)

hm. Maybe that's why there were no more discussions?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Historical daily sudoku puzzles: Nov 2,4,8 2006 Reply with quote

nataraj wrote:
There is a gaping hole in the history of this forum between November 2006 and February 2007 ...


I believe those message were lost due to a system failure.

Keith
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now I've started to do the "missing" puzzles, but it seems like x-wing was the only technique deemed "very hard" then ...

That is correct, the X-Wing was all that was required for some time and solving was pretty predictable. I don't recall when the XY and XYZ were added.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
I don't recall when the XY and XYZ were added.



I guess I'll try a few samples, maybe one out of every month ...


Afterthought: might do a binary search (start in the middle of the gap, if still only x-wing, try middle of later half)

But what you are saying is that these puzzles have already been discussed ?
Hm ... I came here much later. Anyways, I'll give it a shot (always need a fresh supply of puzzles for plane trips Smile )
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Jan.15,2007 vh sports an xy-wing!

It can be solved by (multi-)coloring, but no x-wing as far as I can see.
Getting there ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time.

The first puzzle that required anything other than the basics, an X-wing, was May 2, 2006.

If I were to choose one set of puzzles to take to a desert island, I would take the last two years of this site's "very hard". Exactly my speed, for pencil and paper.

Keith
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time.

Keith, my recollection is different. I recall X-Wings as the only required technique for some time. The puzzles were very predictable, as I mentioned above. Do the basics, find the obligatory X-Wing and the puzzle was done. I think he added XY and XYZ later.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nataraj wrote:
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The Jan.15,2007 vh sports an xy-wing!

It can be solved by (multi-)coloring, but no x-wing as far as I can see.
Getting there ...

Nataraj,

Just to be clear: Any of this site's "Very Hard" puzzles can be solved by X-, XY-, and / or XYZ-wings.

Which spoils it a little for me, since I tend to look for these wings rather than for other solution methods.

Keith


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
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As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time.

Keith, my recollection is different. I recall X-Wings as the only required technique for some time. The puzzles were very predictable, as I mentioned above. Do the basics, find the obligatory X-Wing and the puzzle was done. I think he added XY and XYZ later.


Marty,

You are probably correct. As Nataraj (and others) mine the archives, they will most likely prove the fallibility of my memory.

Keith
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
If I were to choose one set of puzzles to take to a desert island, I would take the last two years of this site's "very hard". Exactly my speed, for pencil and paper.

Keith


Agreed. Though I would save on excess baggage charges and take only last year's worth.
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