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nataraj
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1048 Location: near Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: Historical daily sudoku puzzles: Nov 2,4,8 2006 |
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There is a gaping hole in the history of this forum between November 2006 and February 2007. Now I've started to do the "missing" puzzles, but it seems like x-wing was the only technique deemed "very hard" then ...
Nov 2: xwing (on 2, rows 2 and 6)
Nov 4: basics only
Nov 8: xwing (on 1, cols 1 and 6)
hm. Maybe that's why there were no more discussions? |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Historical daily sudoku puzzles: Nov 2,4,8 2006 |
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nataraj wrote: | There is a gaping hole in the history of this forum between November 2006 and February 2007 ... |
I believe those message were lost due to a system failure.
Keith |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Now I've started to do the "missing" puzzles, but it seems like x-wing was the only technique deemed "very hard" then ... |
That is correct, the X-Wing was all that was required for some time and solving was pretty predictable. I don't recall when the XY and XYZ were added. |
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nataraj
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1048 Location: near Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Marty R. wrote: | I don't recall when the XY and XYZ were added. |
I guess I'll try a few samples, maybe one out of every month ...
Afterthought: might do a binary search (start in the middle of the gap, if still only x-wing, try middle of later half)
But what you are saying is that these puzzles have already been discussed ?
Hm ... I came here much later. Anyways, I'll give it a shot (always need a fresh supply of puzzles for plane trips ) |
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nataraj
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1048 Location: near Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Success:
The Jan.15,2007 vh sports an xy-wing!
It can be solved by (multi-)coloring, but no x-wing as far as I can see.
Getting there ... |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time.
The first puzzle that required anything other than the basics, an X-wing, was May 2, 2006.
If I were to choose one set of puzzles to take to a desert island, I would take the last two years of this site's "very hard". Exactly my speed, for pencil and paper.
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time. |
Keith, my recollection is different. I recall X-Wings as the only required technique for some time. The puzzles were very predictable, as I mentioned above. Do the basics, find the obligatory X-Wing and the puzzle was done. I think he added XY and XYZ later. |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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nataraj wrote: | Success:
The Jan.15,2007 vh sports an xy-wing!
It can be solved by (multi-)coloring, but no x-wing as far as I can see.
Getting there ... |
Nataraj,
Just to be clear: Any of this site's "Very Hard" puzzles can be solved by X-, XY-, and / or XYZ-wings.
Which spoils it a little for me, since I tend to look for these wings rather than for other solution methods.
Keith
Last edited by keith on Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:47 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Marty R. wrote: | Quote: | As I recall, Sam implemented X-, XY-, and XYZ- wings at the same time. |
Keith, my recollection is different. I recall X-Wings as the only required technique for some time. The puzzles were very predictable, as I mentioned above. Do the basics, find the obligatory X-Wing and the puzzle was done. I think he added XY and XYZ later. |
Marty,
You are probably correct. As Nataraj (and others) mine the archives, they will most likely prove the fallibility of my memory.
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nataraj
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1048 Location: near Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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keith wrote: | If I were to choose one set of puzzles to take to a desert island, I would take the last two years of this site's "very hard". Exactly my speed, for pencil and paper.
Keith |
Agreed. Though I would save on excess baggage charges and take only last year's worth. |
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