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Another hard starter by JPF (game 0043)

 
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ravel



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Another hard starter by JPF (game 0043) Reply with quote

Honestly, i would not like to solve this on paper, its a pencilmark trainer Smile
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+-------+-------+-------+
| . 1 . | . . . | . . . |
| 2 . . | . . . | 3 . . |
| . . . | 4 . 5 | 6 7 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 8 | 7 . 6 | 4 . . |
| . . . | . . . | . . . |
| . . 6 | 9 . 3 | 5 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 7 4 | 6 . 2 | . . . |
| . . 1 | . . . | . 5 . |
| . . . | . . . | . . 8 |
+-------+-------+-------+ JPF

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"Only" (heavy) basics (15 ?) and the favorite advanced technique of this site needed for the first number.
Extending that technique with a simple transport leaves [edit: almost] only singles then.
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly, i would not like to solve this on paper


Ah, ravel, I was going to do it but you talked me out of it ...

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seriously. I'll do it, but not tonight...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah: I looked at the clutter and - definitely not tonight - I've got a headache.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honestly, i would not like to solve this on paper,

I wouldn't like to either, but I did in the absence of alternatives. It's quite an accomplishment for me to not have made any mechanical errors with all this clutter. I used a couple of techniques commonly mentioned here.

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First were four ERs. They set up a W-Wing on 18, which set up locked candidates which started a chain of eliminations. After those there was another W-Wing on 18 which finished it off.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, that wasn't so bad (for most of the time), only row 5 stubbornly refused to lose its many PMs ... I tried to concentrate on the less cluttered cells Smile

After basics, one w-wing (18, r2c4 and r5c6 with strong link "1" in row 9) gets rid of many "8"s and leads to a series of basic cleanups.

Then, a m-wing (18 in r2c4,r6c8 - conjugate via r2c8 plus stong link on "1" in box 2):

Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 6       1       57       | 28      3       79       | 89      2489    2459     |
| 2       4       57       | 18#     6       79       | 3       189#    159      |
| 389     389     39       | 4       12*     5        | 6       7       12       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 1       359     8        | 7       25      6        | 4       239     239      |
| 47      359     39       | 125     12458   18       | 189     123689  123679   |
| 47      2       6        | 9      -148     3        | 5       18*     17       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 58      7       4        | 6       58      2        | 19      139     139      |
| 89      689     1        | 3       7       48       | 2       5       46       |
| 35      36      2        | 15      9       14       | 7       46      8        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+

The resulting cleanup reveals a UR type 2 here:
Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 6       1       57       | 28      3       79       | 89      2489    2459     |
| 2       4       57       | 18      6       79       | 3       189     159      |
| 389     389     39       | 4       12      5        | 6       7       12       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 1       359     8        | 7      -25      6        | 4       239*    239*     |
| 47      359     39       | 125     12458   18       | 89     -23689  -23679    |
| 47      2       6        | 9       48      3        | 5       18      17       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 58      7       4        | 6       58      2        | 1       39*     39*      |
| 89      689     1        | 3       7       48       | 2       5       46       |
| 35      36      2        | 15      9       14       | 7       46      8        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+


To avoid the DP 39, one of r4c89 must be 2.

This solves the puzzle Very Happy
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ravel



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 46      1      57   | 23-8  3679   7-89  |*89   2489    2459    |
 | 2       46     57   |#18    679    17-89 | 3    14-89   1459    |
 | 389     389    39   | 4     12     5     | 6    7       12      |
 |---------------------+--------------------+----------------------|
 | 1359    2359   8    | 7     125    6     | 4    1239    1239    |
 | 134579  23459  239  | 125-8 12458 #18    |*189  123689  123679  |
 | 147     24     6    | 9     1248   3     | 5    128     127     |
 |---------------------+--------------------+----------------------|
 | 58      7      4    | 6     58     2     | 19   139     139     |
 | 3689    23689  1    | 38    379    4789  | 27   5       46      |
 | 3569    23569  239  |@135   379   @1479  | 27   46      8       |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------------*
When you arrive at the w-wing 18 (after a naked quint in column 5), which eliminates 3 8's, you can finish it off by using the strong link in column 7. It transports the 8 in r5c6 to r1c7 and thus allows two more eliminations.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neat !
Very Happy
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