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Menneske SH to occupy our time

 
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Menneske SH to occupy our time Reply with quote

Code:
 
 *-----------*
 |5..|...|84.|
 |.28|3..|...|
 |.9.|..6|3..|
 |---+---+---|
 |7..|...|.2.|
 |9..|.3.|5..|
 |.6.|7.2|...|
 |---+---+---|
 |.17|..8|..9|
 |...|.6.|...|
 |...|..4|...|
 *-----------*


A Menneske Super Hard to occupy our time while waiting for a local VH.

Ted
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wapati



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see two finned x-wings and a 4 cell xy-chain.

That is hard enough. Thnx.
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Asellus



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, it was a one-step solution.
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ravel



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a useful useless w-wing.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also found the useful useless w-wing.

Ted
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cgordon



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It did me in! I think I found the two finned x-wings - if they are indeed at R67 to get rid of 4 in R4C7 and at R58 to get rid of 8 in R9C8. But I'm stuck after that.
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Earl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Vh wait Reply with quote

Asellus,

"For me, a one step solution."
You have a doubting Thomas here.

Earl
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one step solution extending the pincers {4} from the W-wing.



(4)r8c2=(4)r7c1-(4=6)r7c7-(6)r4c7=(6)r4c4-(6=4)r5c4; r5c2 <> 4
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Asellus



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earl wrote:
You have a doubting Thomas here.

I didn't see that interesting W-Wing with pincer transport. For me, it was a 4-cell XY Chain, possibly the same as wapati's though this one doesn't depend on the finned fish:
(4=3)r7c1 - (3=6)r7c8 - (6=8)r5c8 - (8=4)r5c2; r6c1|r8c2<>4
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ravel



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4-cell xy-chains are also called "generalized xy-wings". For me an own name is justified by the fact, that i look for them sytematically like for xy-wings, while i find longer xy-chains more or less accidentally.
I go through the units. Whenever there is a pair of bivalue cells with a common digit (here the 6 in column 8), i look, if both other digits (8 and 3) force the same number x by seeing a bivalue cell 8x and 3x resp.
This is done very quickly (faster than an xy-wing search), because normally there are only a few potential "pivot pairs".
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravel,

are you ending your posting career on this site at 999 posts??
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