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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: August 25 VH Reply with quote

Looks like my turn to lead off. I had a lot of fun with this one, but I know I missed something and/or did things in the wrong sequence. It took me eight moves, all run-of-the-mill moves that are commonly discussed here, with an XY-Wing finally breaking it open.
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: August 25 VH Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
Looks like my turn to lead off. I had a lot of fun with this one, but I know I missed something and/or did things in the wrong sequence. It took me eight moves, all run-of-the-mill moves that are commonly discussed here, with an XY-Wing finally breaking it open.


Is this the puzzle your speaking of?
Code:

 *-----------*
 |...|...|1.8|
 |.8.|...|...|
 |.57|.1.|.46|
 |---+---+---|
 |.2.|.56|9..|
 |.7.|4.9|.5.|
 |..5|73.|.1.|
 |---+---+---|
 |53.|.6.|78.|
 |...|...|.6.|
 |2.6|...|...|
 *-----------*


I solved it with singles and locked candidates Confused Nothing advanced needed.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this the puzzle your speaking of?

No Dan, the grid you showed was the August 24 Hard.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: August 25 VH Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
Looks like my turn to lead off. I had a lot of fun with this one, but I know I missed something and/or did things in the wrong sequence. It took me eight moves, all run-of-the-mill moves that are commonly discussed here, with an XY-Wing finally breaking it open.


I also had a good time for a total of 5 everyday steps with a single transport and only twice did I even delete the same digit. By happenstance, I also finished off with a xy-wing.

Ted
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
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Is this the puzzle your speaking of?

No Dan, the grid you showed was the August 24 Hard.

Sorry about that Embarassed We apparently get the puzzle late here in Arkansas.

Needed two xy-flags to solve it. Found a kite and skyscrapper that were not needed.
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Wendy W



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love a killer xyz that eliminates lots of digits! In this case, ones.
BTW this was yet another puzzle where we didn't need to use x-wings.
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wendy W wrote:
I love a killer xyz that eliminates lots of digits! In this case, ones.

Code:

 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 5     69    2     | 39-1 *136   7     | 8    *13    4     |
 | 1     49    7     | 3459  8     2     | 6     35    39    |
 | 8     3     46    | 1459 *16    4569  | 2     157   79    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 46    456   9     | 2     45    8     | 1     37    37    |
 | 7     8     3     | 6     9     1     | 4     2     5     |
 | 24    1245  14    | 7     45    3     | 9     8     6     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 269   7     16    | 139   1236  69    | 5     4     8     |
 | 469   1469  8     | 1459  7     4569  | 3     69    2     |
 | 3     2469  5     | 8     26    469   | 7     69    1     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*

I found the above xyz-wing but it only removed 1 candidate and didn't seem to help solve the puzzle. What am I missing?
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cgordon



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite straightforward really - once I'd gone through these steps.

A Type 4 UR on <45>
An ER on <4>
An ER on <6>
An xyz-wing <136>
An xy-wing <146>
An xy-wing <269>
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After basics, one xy-wing 46-14-16 in boxes 4 and 7 removes 6 from r78c1.
After that, another xy-wing 29-69-26 boxes 7 and 8 eliminates 2 from r7c5 and r9c2.
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prakash



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used 2 XY wings to solve this one.
Code:

.------------------.------------------.------------------.
| 5     69    2    | 39    136   7    | 8     13    4    |
| 1     49    7    | 3459  8     2    | 6     35    39   |
| 8     3     46   | 1459  16    4569 | 2     157   79   |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| *46   456   9    | 2     45    8    | 1     37    37   |
| 7     8     3    | 6     9     1    | 4     2     5    |
| 24    1245  *14  | 7     45    3    | 9     8     6    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 2-69  7     *16  | 139   1236  69   | 5     4     8    |
| 4-69  146   8    | 1459  7     4569 | 3     69    2    |
| 3     246   5    | 8     26    469  | 7     69    1    |
'------------------'------------------'------------------'

Code:

.------------------.------------------.------------------.
| 5     69    2    | 39    136   7    | 8     13    4    |
| 1     49    7    | 3459  8     2    | 6     35    39   |
| 8     3     46   | 1459  16    4569 | 2     157   79   |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 6     45    9    | 2     45    8    | 1     37    37   |
| 7     8     3    | 6     9     1    | 4     2     5    |
| 24    1245  14   | 7     45    3    | 9     8     6    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| *29   7     16   | 139   1-236 *69  | 5     4     8    |
| 49    146   8    | 1459  7     4569 | 3     69    2    |
| 3     -246  5    | 8     *26   469  | 7     69    1    |
'------------------'------------------'------------------'
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