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		| ravel 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: VH+ by m_b_metcalf (game 0049) |   |  
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				| >>> play online 	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+ | . . . | . . . | 1 2 . |
 | . . . | 3 4 . | . . . |
 | . . 3 | . . . | 5 6 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 7 . | . . . | . . 8 |
 | . 4 . | . 7 . | . . 2 |
 | . . . | . . 1 | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 5 . 8 | . . . | 3 . . |
 | 6 . 1 | . . . | . . . |
 | . . . | 8 2 . | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+ m_b_metcalf
 
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		| cgordon 
 
 
 Joined: 04 May 2007
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 Location: ontario, canada
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I enjoyed the basic line/box eliminations - one led to another.  Used a simple UR but then got stuck and had to resort to Remote Pairs (56).  Though I bet I missed a wing or two. |  | 
	
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The 6-cell remote pair<56> was fairly obvious, as was the UR on<47>. I then had a kite, multi-coloring and coloring all on <5> followed by a xy-wing on <567> that deleted another <5> to kill the beast. 
 Ravel, a really nice puzzle. Thanks much .......
 
 Ted
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ...Actually my beast was slain with just the UR and remote pairs. |  | 
	
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | cgordon wrote: |  	  | ...Actually my beast was slain with just the UR and remote pairs. | 
 I worked the puzzle again with identical results except I did not need the remote pair; I must have missed a basic elimination the first time.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 479   56    47    | 5679  5689  789   | 1     2     3     |
 | 2     1     56    | 3     4     56    | 8     7     9     |
 | 79    8     3     | 1279  19    279   | 5     6     4     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 13    7     569   | 2569  569   239   | 4     1359  8     |
 | 138   4     569   | 569   7     38    | 69    13    2     |
 | 38    56    2     | 4     89    1     | 7     39    56    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 5     2     8     | 1679  169   79    | 3     4     67    |
 | 6     9     1     | 57    3     4     | 2     8     57    |
 | 47    3     47    | 8     2     56    | 69    59    1     |
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 We have a type 1 UR <47> in r19c13 that makes r1c1=9.
 
 At this point, I don't see a remote pair elimination. My first time, I removed <56> from r9c9, but on my second pass those digits were removed by basics.
 
 For me, I then completed the puzzle using a kite, multi-coloring and coloring on <5> followed by a xy-wing on <567>.
 
 Craig, did you have different code after basics or did I miss a simple deletion?
 
 Ted
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Craig, did you have different code after basics or did I miss a simple deletion? | 
 
 Sorry, I chucked the puzzle - but I seem to recall a triple or two and maybe even a quad.  In fact, I thought it was the basics of this puzzle that made it so exceptional.
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I never saw a remote pairs elimination. Used the Type 1, XY-Wing on 893, two ERs on 5, Skyscraper on 5, two hidden URs, and a W-Wing on 67 followed by pincer coloring on same. A fun puzzle. |  | 
	
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