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Set XY_02 Puzzle 105

 
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Set XY_02 Puzzle 105 Reply with quote

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 4 2 . | 1 . . | . . . |
 | 5 . . | 2 4 9 | . 8 1 |
 | . . 9 | . 5 . | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 8 7 . | . 9 . | . 1 3 |
 | . 3 4 | 8 2 . | . . 5 |
 | . 5 . | . . 1 | 8 . 4 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . 3 | 4 . . |
 | . 8 . | 4 . . | . . . |
 | . 4 . | 9 7 2 | . . . |
 +-----------------------+

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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny,
I am going to try and take a new approach to this puzzle.
the chain that results is very very long.

in this puzzle, if you remove the 9 from r1c8, you are left with {3,7}.
that {3,7} cell completes this w-wing
(3=7)A - (7)B = (7)C - (7=3)D which would eliminate the 3 in r1c5.
can this partial chain be made?
w-wing{3,7} = (9)A...
Code:
.---------------------.---------------------.---------------------.
| 4      2      8     | 1     -36     67    | 5     A379   E79    |
| 5      6      37    | 2      4      9     | 37     8      1     |
| 37     1      9     |D37     5      8     |H26     4     G26    |
:---------------------+---------------------+---------------------:
| 8      7     J26    | 5      9      4     |I26     1      3     |
| 1      3      4     | 8      2      67    | 79     679    5     |
| 9      5     K26    |C37    L36     1     | 8     B267    4     |
:---------------------+---------------------+---------------------:
| 27     9      1     | 6      8      3     | 4      5     F27    |
| 2367   8      37    | 4      1      5     | 379    23679  2679  |
| 36     4      5     | 9      7      2     | 1      36     8     |
'---------------------'---------------------'---------------------'

what that partial chain means is that if the 9 is true, then the w-wing is false and vice versa.
with that in mind, this huge chain can be formed.

{w-wing37[(3=7)A - (7)B = (7)C - (7=3)D]} = (9)A - (9=7)E - (7=2)F - (2)G = (2)H - (2)I = (2)J - (2=6)K - (6=3)L

this huge chain means that either the w-wing is true or the 3 in L is true.

either way the 3 in r1c5 can't exist.

solves the puzzle.

[daj edit]
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norm,

Your chain may be perfectly valid, but I'm not the one who would know for sure. I've always been uncomfortable with embedded sub-patterns, even though I've seen some that've knocked my socks off once I convinced myself that they worked.

I agree with your elimination, but that's because I see it as two chains with the strong link on <3> in [r1] resulting in contradictions when [r1c8]=7|9.

Specifically:

[r1c8]=7 should force [r1c5]=3, but instead forces [r3c4]=3 by following the W-Wing cells. This results in a contradiction by adding (3)r3c4-(3)r1c5=(3)r1c8.

[r1c8]=9 should force [r1c5]=3, but your =(9)A chain instead forces [r6c5]=3. This results in a contradiction by adding (3)r6c5-(3)r1c5=(3)r1c8.

This then leaves [r1c8]=3 to crack the puzzle.

BTW: As individual chains, [r1c8]<>7|9 can be had with shorter chains.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three steps:
Quote:
x-wing on 3,
coloring on 7,
w-wing 26 with pincers in r3c9 & r8c1 and strong link on 2 in row7 deletes 6 in r8c9. Then transport pincer r8c1 to r9c8 via r9c1 and pincer r3c9 to r4c7 via r3c7 to delete 6 in r56c8 and complete the puzzle.


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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used simple coloring on 7. Then in the rightmost stack there was an XY-Wing Chain, 27-26-26-26-67. It was flightless but a pincer transport removed the 7 from r5c6 and finished the puzzle.
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