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daj95376
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: Puzzle 10/04/10 ___ Chain |
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For those who like a chain after basics ... plus non-chain step(s).
Code: | +-----------------------+
| 7 8 . | . . . | . 9 . |
| 3 9 . | 8 . 2 | 5 . 4 |
| . . 5 | 4 . . | . 3 . |
|-------+-------+-------|
| . 7 8 | 3 . . | 6 . 9 |
| . . . | . 4 . | . . . |
| . 3 . | . . 6 | . . 7 |
|-------+-------+-------|
| . 6 . | 9 . . | 4 . . |
| 8 . 7 | . . . | . . . |
| . 4 . | 5 . 7 | . . 3 |
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site |
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tlanglet
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Danny, I worked on this puzzle twice and never found an easy solution; it was a BBDBer for me. I used a x-wing, xy-wing, xyz-wing, skyscraper and more immediately after basics and then some simple chains followed by some messy chains. I will try it again in the future.
Ted |
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peterj
Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 974 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have had three goes at it now with similar results!
After an x-wing and a skyscraper I have assorted chains - a W-wing on 21 or xy-chain, some useful strong links on 2 and a veritable converyor belt of 6s. I can delete a couple of 2s but nothing get's me very far. I think there's an xyz-wing in box8 also.
Going to give it one more go when the sun stops shining! |
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daj95376
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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The "Chain" puzzles are meant to be extremely difficult compared to finding productive chains in my everyday puzzles. Even after you find the chain in this puzzle, more steps follow.
Four of the eight most productive chains start from one cell.
Starting Cell wrote: | r9c5
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arkietech
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 1834 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Good one Danny! Code: | *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
| 7 8 4 | 16 5 3 | 12 9 126 |
| 3 9 16 | 8 7 2 | 5 16 4 |
| 126 12 5 | 4 169 19 | 7 3 8 |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
| 124 7 8 | 3 12 5 | 6 124 9 |
| 12569 125 1269 | 7 4 89 | 3 1258 125 |
| 45 3 129 | 12 89 6 | 128 45 7 |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
| 125 6 3 | 9 128 18 | 4 7 125 |
| 8 125 7 | 126 3 4 | 9 1256 1256 |
| 129 4 129 | 5 126 7 | 128 1268 3 |
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(1=9)r3c6-(9=8)r5c6-r5c8=(8-6)r9c8=r9c5-r3c5=r3c1-(6=1)r2c3; r3c12<>1
skyscraper 5
x-wing 2
remote pair 12 r4c8<>1
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peterj
Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 974 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Easy (?) when you are told where to look!!
A total of three steps - the chain and two more "chainy" moves
Quote: | (6)r9c5=(6-8)r9c8=r5c8-(8=9)r5c6-(9=1)r3c6-(1=6)r1c4; r3c5<>6, r8c4<>6
Colour wrap(5); r5c28<>5, r7c1<>5, r8c8<>5
xy-chain: (2=4)r4c1-(4=1)r4c8-(1=2)r8c8-(2=1)r8c4-(1=2)r6c4; r4c5<>2 |
I clearly need more "chain" puzzles to practise on! Thanks Dan |
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daj95376
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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arkietech wrote: | (1=9)r3c6-(9=8)r5c6-r5c8=(8-6)r9c8=r9c5-r3c5=r3c1-(6=1)r2c3; r3c12<>1
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Congratulations Dan on finding a productive chain w/o using my hint. |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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I used coloring (5), XYZ (128), X-Wing (6) and W-Wing (12) after which I hit the brick wall. Had to use my Medusa crutch to put me out of my misery. |
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Mogulmeister
Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Not as elegant as Dan's chain which acted as pincers on 1s. Mine acts to show a contradiction:
1.There is a contradiction if you put a 6 in r9c8
(6-8)r9c8=(8)r5c8-(8=9)r5c6-r3c6=(9-6)r3c5=(6)r9c5 so r9c8 <> 6
2 (Colouring) Kite on 5s
3 (Colouring) Skyscraper on 1s
Done |
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