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Puzzle 10/07/11: Night & Day

 
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Puzzle 10/07/11: Night & Day Reply with quote

Sometimes, I get frustrated at my puzzle generator because it doesn't seem to generate a noteworty puzzle. After I have gsf's solver remove a few more clues, I realize why my generator stopped removing clues when it did.

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 7 . 3 | 6 . . | 9 . 4 |
 | . . . | . 2 . | 3 . 1 |
 | 1 . 5 | 9 . . | . 7 2 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 5 . 4 | . . . | . . 9 |
 | . 6 . | . 5 . | 4 . 7 |
 | . . . | . . 6 | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 4 1 . | . 6 . | 7 9 3 |
 | . . 9 | . . . | 5 . . |
 | 6 5 7 | 3 4 . | 1 . . |
 +-----------------------+

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The second puzzle should be more difficult than the first.

Code:
 +-----------------------+
 | 7 . 3 | . . . | . . . |
 | . . . | . 2 . | . . 1 |
 | . . 5 | 9 . . | . 7 2 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . 4 | . . . | . . 9 |
 | . 6 . | . 5 . | 4 . 7 |
 | . . . | . . 6 | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . 1 . | . 6 . | 7 9 3 |
 | . . 9 | . . . | . . . |
 | 6 . 7 | 3 4 . | 1 . . |
 +-----------------------+

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Code:
 after basics
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  7     2     3     |  6     1     5     |  9     8     4     |
 |  8     9     6     |  7     2     4     |  35    35    1     |
 |  1     4     5     |  9     38    38    |  6     7     2     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  235   358   4     |  128   378   17    |  2358  6     9     |
 |  9     6     128   |  28    5     238   |  4     13    7     |
 |  235   7     128   |  4     9     6     |  2358  135   58    |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  4     1     28    |  5     6     28    |  7     9     3     |
 |  235   358   9     |  128   78    17    |  58    4     6     |
 |  6     58    7     |  3     4     9     |  1     2     58    |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 45 eliminations remain
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny.Great comparison of puzzles Danny.

Puzzle #1 I solved with the first two step I noticed.

Quote:
xy-wing -238 with vertex (38)r4c2; r6c7<>2
flightless xy-wing 1-28 with vertex (18)r5c3 plus transport (2)r5c4-r5c6=(2)r7c6; r7c3<>2


The second puzzle I used a total different initial move but then the remaining two additional moves used a similar path. However the second puzzle had multiple options using different steps after my initial move.
Quote:
Kraken cell (238)r5c6
(2)r5c6-(2=8)r5c4; r4c45<>8
(3)r5c6-(3=8)r3c6-r7c6=r7c3-r56c3=(8)r4c2; r4c45<>8
(8)r5c6; r4c45<>8

Almost xy-wing 37-8 with vertex (37)r4c5, pincers (38)r4c2 & (78)r8c5 with fin (5)r4c2
If xy-wing is true: r8c2<>8
If fin is true: (5)r4c2-(5=8)r9c2; r8c2<>8

Almost xy-wing 35-8 with vertex (35)r8c2, pincers (38)r4c2 & (58)r8c7 with fin (5)r4c2
If xy-wing is true: r4c7<>8
If fin is true: (5)r4c2-r9c2=r9c9-(5=8)r8c7; r4c7<>8

Ted
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first one, I started with Ted's XY-Wing (382) and then a flightless W-Wing (38) with pincer transport.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the second one, I used:

M-Wing (28) + pincer transport
Kite (8)
XY-Wing (382), same numbers and same cells as the first puzzle, or so I think
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Mogulmeister



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted, hats off for a serious double almost xy-wing workout.
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