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Krampus Edition - "?" #2

 
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peterj



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Krampus Edition - "?" #2 Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------*
 |..7|361|...|
 |..2|8..|..1|
 |6.5|...|...|
 |---+---+---|
 |.8.|.25|...|
 |.7.|...|.2.|
 |...|73.|.9.|
 |---+---+---|
 |...|...|5.4|
 |3..|..7|2..|
 |...|298|6..|
 *-----------*
Code:
007361000002800001605000000080025000070000020000730090000000504300007200000298600

(c) Helmut Saueregger
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
+----------------------+--------------+----------------+
| 8       49   7       | 3    6  1    | 49    5    2   |
| -9(4)   3    2       | 8    5  9(4) | 7     6    1   |
| 6       1    5       | 49   7  2    | 3489  34   38  |
+----------------------+--------------+----------------+
| 14(9)   8    14(369) | 149  2  5    | 134   347  367 |
| 145(9)  7    14(369) | 149  8  469  | 134   2    356 |
| 1245    245  14(6)   | 7    3  (46) | 148   9    568 |
+----------------------+--------------+----------------+
| 279     29   89      | 6    1  3    | 5     78   4   |
| 3       6    18      | 5    4  7    | 2     18   9   |
| 1457    45   14      | 2    9  8    | 6     137  37  |
+----------------------+--------------+----------------+


one step
(9)R45C1 = (39-6)R45C3 = (6)R6C3 - (6=4)R6C6 - (4)R2C6 = (4)R2C1; R2C1 <> 9
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One step AIC: (3=7)r9c9-r9c1=(7-2)r7c1=(2-9)r7c2=r1c2-(9=4)r1c7-(4=3)r3c8; r3c9,r9c8<>3

Ted
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several reasonable ways to crack this puzzle in one step. I decided to take the unreasonable approach. First, I tried my best to find a DP containing <49+?>, but I failed. Then, I happened to examine just <9>.

Code:
 Kraken Skyscraper r24c1 on <9>  =>  r5c6<>9

 now comes the Kraken network

 ( r4c3=9 r5c3=3 ) r6c3=6 r6c6=4 r2c6=9  =>  r5c6<>9
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  8      49     7      |  3      6      1      |  49     5      2      |
 | *49     3      2      |  8      5     *49     |  7      6      1      |
 |  6      1      5      |  49     7      2      |  3489   34     38     |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 | *149    8     #13469  | *149    2      5      |  134    347    367    |
 |  1459   7      13469  |  149    8      46-9   |  134    2      356    |
 |  1245   245    146    |  7      3      46     |  148    9      568    |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 |  279    29     89     |  6      1      3      |  5      78     4      |
 |  3      6      18     |  5      4      7      |  2      18     9      |
 |  1457   45     14     |  2      9      8      |  6      137    37     |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 66 eliminations remain

Regards, Danny

An alternate perspective based on a forcing chain:
Code:

(6)r6c3 - (6=4)r6c6 -                         (4=9)r2c6  =>  r5c6<>9

(6)r6c3 = hp(36-149)r45c3 = (9)r45c1 - r2c1 = (  9)r2c6  =>  r5c6<>9


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peterj



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny, yep - unreasonable!
But I think a Kraken move starting with an almost-turbot move or a broken wing is an underused play - and no more unreasonable than starting with a DP IMHO.
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, in case you missed my alterate perspective ... look up ^^^^^.

It's even more unrealistic than my Kraken Skyscraper.
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daj95376 wrote:
There are several reasonable ways to crack this puzzle in one step. I decided to take the unreasonable approach. First, I tried my best to find a DP containing <49>, but I failed. Then, I happened to examine just <9>.

Code:
 Kraken Skyscraper r24c1 on <9>  =>  r5c6<9>  r5c6<9>  r5c6<9>  r5c6<>9


Danny,

I love your Kraken skyscraper Exclamation Exclamation Very Happy

I don't really care what they are called: almost, finned, Kraken etc... but working with variations on standard patterns is one of my greatest pleasures in playing sudoku. In this case you found a chain that was not obvious but it did the job in short order. Great and rewarding!

Ted
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