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daj95376
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:05 am Post subject: Sudopedia |
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For those who haven't tried to access Sudopedia lately, it's been down for several days and there doesn't seem to be any communication available to those hosting the website/server. |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Danny,
That's too bad.
Maybe someone has a copy of the content and it can be put into Wikipedia?
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Pat
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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if it had anything of value --
now is the time to catch it in the Google cache
(will soon vanish) |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Pat found a possible phone number, but it is invalid.
I found Ruud van der Werf on LinkedIn, and have sent a request to connect.
We shall see.
edit: I found a list of six Sudoku forums that Ruud say he is a member of. Four of those are dead. Only this site (Daily Sudoku) and Sudoku Programmers are still running.
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daj95376
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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He's also a member of EnjoySudoku ... the reincarnation of another defunct forum. Many of his entries are present, but he hasn't been active in a long time. |
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peterj
Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 974 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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There's a snapshot of the site in the Wayback Machine from April 09. All the links I tried seemed to work. Not sure how easy it is to re-construct from this copy.. |
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JasonLion
Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 2 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ruud never claimed his old account on the New Sudoku Players Forum. |
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Pat
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 207
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Pat wrote: | http://sudoPedia.Org is back ! | Pat,
That is good news. Do you have any idea what happened?
I see that it is still hosted at Ruud's mostly dead site, and they are still not asking for donations.
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Pat
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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sorry, no idea what happened
and yes, SuDoCue.Net has some problem
= their Forum is gone |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Pat,
As we speak, I am making a copy of Sudopedia. At 1h45m, 160 MB, and counting. I am about to leave town for three days. We will see what I have when I get back on Wednesday morning.
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Pat
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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keith wrote: |
I am making a copy of Sudopedia
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i assume you're recursively following all links
i.e. including all versions of history |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Pat wrote: | keith wrote: |
I am making a copy of Sudopedia
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i assume you're recursively following all links
i.e. including all versions of history |
Pat,
I am only dimly aware of what I did. I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive. It took a couple of days, but it did complete. I now have a copy that seems to work fine. It is about 1.33 GB. I plan to put it on a thumb drive and / or DVD for safekeeping.
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Pat
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: |
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keith wrote: | I used HTTrack to mirror the Sudopedia site on to my hard drive.
I now have a copy that seems to work fine.
It is about 1.33 GB. |
say you visit sudopedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Subset- you could save an HTML snapshot
- or (better) click the "edit" link
and save the contents of the edit-box (in wikiMedia language) - if you used a crawler which followed all links
then you may have saved both ?? there's also a "history" link --
so, if you followed all links, you also got 11 versions (full history) of the article.
(they save a separate version even if only 1 character was changed.)
this explains the huge size.
and if you followed the "discussion" link,
then you also got the associated discussion ( sudopedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hidden_Subset ) etc
for each article (and for each associated discussion)
you have (presumably) 2 copies of each historical version --
the 2nd copy is the one obtained via the "edit" link,
where the textarea (edit-box) contains the source (in wikiMedia language). |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Pat,
I appear to have EVERYTHING. I can look at the edit page, I can see eleven versions of the history.
Even better, I can update my mirror copy by running the software again. So, I have a fully functioning copy of Wikipedia on my hard drive.
EXCEPT: I cannot copy it to a DVD or to a flash drive. Windows copy fails, possibly because of "illegal" characters in file names. I suppose I could try to use the same software to mirror my copy to another drive.
My advice? Make your own mirror. I used WinHT. It ran for a few days, and I have a very high speed internet connection. (Actually, the software limits itself so as to not bog down your connection or the site being copied. Pretty cool stuff.)
Keith |
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