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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Another Menneske Reply with quote

I have a simple one-stepper: I have no idea what it is.
Code:
Puzzle: M4226678sh(5)
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . . 4 | . . . |
| . . . | . 8 . | 9 . . |
| . . . | . 3 9 | 8 5 1 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 8 . | 3 . 7 | . 1 . |
| . . . | . . . | . 7 6 |
| . . 2 | . 9 . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 5 . . | . 1 . | . 9 . |
| 4 . 7 | . . . | . . 8 |
| . . 8 | . 4 . | 3 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+

Keith
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith,

I found a "simple" one step solution that results in r3c1<>2.

Ted
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peterj



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that top left corner is very fragile!!
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Consider the 5 in block1, if r1c2<>5 then we have a (19)r1c23 pair, if r2c2<>5 then we have a (16)r2c26 pair. Either way r2c13<>1

als-xz (19=5)r1c23 - (5=16)r2c26 ; r2c13<>1
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After basics:
Code:
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 8    159  19   | 15   7    4    | 6    3    2    |
| 123  156  13   | 1256 8    16   | 9    4    7    |
| 27   67   4    | 26   3    9    | 8    5    1    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 6    8    5    | 3    2    7    | 4    1    9    |
| 139  149  139  | 14   5    8    | 2    7    6    |
| 17   147  2    | 146  9    16   | 5    8    3    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 5    2    6    | 8    1    3    | 7    9    4    |
| 4    3    7    | 9    6    5    | 1    2    8    |
| 19   19   8    | 7    4    2    | 3    6    5    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+

Look at B1R2C13. The two cells 123 and 13 must be (3) and (12). The 12 pseudocell forms an XY-wing 1-26 with R2C6 and R3C4, so R3C1 <>2.

Keith
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Withdrawn: Doesn't contribute anything!]

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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of Keith's initial comments, I was looking for a "not named pattern", and definitely not an "almost" step since Keith is not into those. I soon focused in on box 1&2.

I found a number of possibilities but when I made my post, I was thinking of a Kraken cell (123)r2c1; r3c1<>2
(1)r2c1-(1=6)r2c6-(6=2)r3c4;
(2)r2c1;
(3)r2c1-(3=1)r2c3-(1=6)r2c6-(6=2)r3c4;

I hoping a Kraken cell was a "less know pattern".

Ted
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This stuff is too complicated for me. In the Type 3 UR on 19 in boxes 47 a 3 or 4 is needed to kill it off. The 4 proves a 3 in r2c3, so the pincers get rid of a couple of 3s, exposing the 162 XY-Wing.
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susume



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(6)r2c2=(6-7)r3c2=(7)r6c2-(7=1)r6c1-(1=6)r6c6 => r2c6<>6=1
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