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Free Press July 27, 2011

 
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keith



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Free Press July 27, 2011 Reply with quote

I'm back. This one seems to be on the tough side:
Code:
Puzzle: FP072911
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . . 8 | . 9 . |
| . . 2 | 6 7 . | . . . |
| . . 8 | . . . | 7 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 9 | . . 5 | 1 . 8 |
| 8 . 4 | 3 . 9 | 2 . 7 |
| 3 . 7 | 8 . . | 4 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 1 | . . . | 5 . . |
| . . . | . 6 7 | 9 . . |
| . 4 . | 2 . . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+

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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't come up with a totally satisfying solution. After a W-Wing, X-Wing and XY-Wing, I couldn't find any conventional moves. So I looked at the potential 14 DP in boxes 13. The 5s in r23c1 were invalid as DP killers; r23c1<>5.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Keith !!!

An interesting puzzle with a difficult last step.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. Due to my laziness and dislike of the process, I did not check rows and columns for X-Wings, Skyscrapers and other potential moves that those checks could reveal. The X-Wing that I did use was very obvious.
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Clement



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Free Press July 27, 2011 Reply with quote

Marty,
After the Basics:-

Code:
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 14   7     356 | 14   35   8   | 36  9    2     |
| 1459 39    2   | 6    7    134 | 38  148  1345  |
| 1456 36   8   | 1459 359  2   | 7   14   13456 |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 26   26    9   | 7    4    5   | 1   3    8     |
| 8    5     4   | 3    1    9   | 2   6    7     |
| 3    1     7   | 8    2    6   | 4   5    9     |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 2679 23689 1   | 49   389  34  | 5   2478 346   |
| 25   238   35  | 145  6    7   | 9   1248 134   |
| 5679 4     356 | 2    3589 13  | 368 178  136   |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+

I do not see any W-Wing or X-Wing
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Free Press July 27, 2011 Reply with quote

Clement wrote:
Marty,
After the Basics:-

Code:
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 14   7     356 | 14   35   8   | 36  9    2     |
| 1459 39    2   | 6    7    134 | 38  148  1345  |
| 1456 36   8   | 1459 359  2   | 7   14   13456 |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 26   26    9   | 7    4    5   | 1   3    8     |
| 8    5     4   | 3    1    9   | 2   6    7     |
| 3    1     7   | 8    2    6   | 4   5    9     |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+
| 2679 23689 1   | 49   389  34  | 5   2478 346   |
| 25   238   35  | 145  6    7   | 9   1248 134   |
| 5679 4     356 | 2    3589 13  | 368 178  136   |
+----------------+---------------+----------------+

I do not see any W-Wing or X-Wing

Clement,

The W-Wing is on the 35s in boxes 27, connected by the 5s in r9.

The X-Wing is on 6s in c37.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Free Press Jul 27, 2011 Reply with quote

Marty,
Ooo Yes, I can see them. However, the 5s connecting the 35s in my Grid are in col 4. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't check to see how many of my solver's intermediate steps were needed to reach the "right" UR state.

Code:
 after basics
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  14     7      356    |  14     35     8      |  36     9      2      |
 |  1459   39     2      |  6      7      134    |  38     148    1345   |
 |  1456   36     8      |  1459   359    2      |  7      14     13456  |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 |  26     26     9      |  7      4      5      |  1      3      8      |
 |  8      5      4      |  3      1      9      |  2      6      7      |
 |  3      1      7      |  8      2      6      |  4      5      9      |
 |-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
 |  2679   23689  1      |  49     389    34     |  5      2478   346    |
 |  25     238    35     |  145    6      7      |  9      1248   134    |
 |  5679   4      356    |  2      3589   13     |  368    178    136    |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 76 eliminations remain

   c37   X-Wing                          <> 6    r9c19

 <25+6>  XY-Wing  r8c1/r4c1+r9c3         <> 6    r7c1

 r1c4    2-String Kite                   <> 5    r8c3

 <56+3>  XY-Wing  r1c3/r1c5+r3c2         <> 3    r3c5

 r19     X-Wing                          <> 5    r3c5

 <28> UR in r78c28
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  14    7     56    |  14    35    8     |  36    9     2     |
 |  145   9     2     |  6     7     134   |  38    148@  145   |
 |  1456  3     8     |  145   9     2     |  7     14    1456  |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  26   @26    9     |  7     4     5     |  1     3     8     |
 |  8     5     4     |  3     1     9     |  2     6     7     |
 |  3     1     7     |  8     2     6     |  4     5     9     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  7    *28+6  1     |  9     38    34    |  5    *28+4  346   |
 |  25   *28    3     |  145   6     7     |  9    *28+14 14    |
 |  9     4     56    |  2     58    13    |  68    7     13    |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 46 eliminations remain

                        (2  )r7c2 = (2-8)r7c8
                       /                     \
(8)r2c8 =UR= (2)r4c2 -                         = (8)r2c8
                       \                     /
                        (2=8)r8c3 - (  8)r8c8



An alternate viewpoint:

Code:
 strong link on <2> in [r7] and [c8]      strong link on <8> in [r8] and [c2]
 +-----------------------------------+    +-----------------------------------+
 |  .  .  .  |  .  .  .  |  .  /  2  |    |  .  /  .  |  .  .  8  |  .  .  .  |
 |  .  .  2  |  .  .  .  |  .  /  .  |    |  .  /  .  |  .  .  .  |  8  8  .  |
 |  .  .  .  |  .  .  2  |  .  /  .  |    |  .  /  8  |  .  .  .  |  .  .  .  |
 |-----------+-----------+-----------|    |-----------+-----------+-----------|
 |  2  2  .  |  .  .  .  |  .  /  .  |    |  .  /  .  |  .  .  .  |  .  .  8  |
 |  .  .  .  |  .  .  .  |  2  /  .  |    |  8  /  .  |  .  .  .  |  .  .  .  |
 |  .  .  .  |  .  2  .  |  .  /  .  |    |  .  /  .  |  8  .  .  |  .  .  .  |
 |-----------+-----------+-----------|    |-----------+-----------+-----------|
 |  /  2  /  |  /  /  /  |  /  2  /  |    |  .  8  .  |  .  8  .  |  .  8  .  |
 |  2  2  .  |  .  .  .  |  .  2  .  |    |  /  8  /  |  /  /  /  |  /  8  /  |
 |  .  .  .  |  2  .  .  |  .  /  .  |    |  .  /  .  |  .  8  .  |  8  .  .  |
 +-----------------------------------+    +-----------------------------------+

If r7c2=8 or r7c8=8, then the strong links (and bivalue in r8c2) will force a <28> DP.
Thus, we can perform r7c2<>8 and r7c8<>8.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Ooo Yes, I can see them. However, the 5s connecting the 35s in my Grid are in col 4. Thank you.

They were probably in my grid too. Either way gets the job done.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where I find myself after a W-Wing, X-Wing, XY-Wing, Fin Transport and short XY-Chain.
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