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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:56 am Post subject: Jan 16 VH |
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Where's Clement when you need him?
I found this to be quite different from the usual VH. I saw no freebies at the start and populating the grid was more complicated than usual, as were the basics. But after that there was a typical solution.
Quote: | XY-Wing (563), pivot r2c1; r789c2<>3 |
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roaa
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I fully agree with Marty R! Also with the final xy-wing (356)? |
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arkietech
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 1834 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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For a non typical solution I like Code: | *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
| 7 *36 8 | 49 149 5 | 2 *36 149 |
| 56 4 2 | 389 13689 7 | 59 68 19 |
| 9 1 35 | 2 468 68 | 35 678 47 |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
| 2 5 6 | 89 89 4 | 7 1 3 |
| 13 8 7 | 5 36 136 | 4 9 2 |
| 4 9 13 | 7 23 123 | 6 5 8 |
|----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
| 1368 f367 139 | 348 3478 38 | 39 2 5 |
| 358 f237 359 | 6 23578 238 | 1 4 79 |
| 5-3 *237 4 | 1 2357 9 | 8 *37 6 |
*--------------------------------------------------------------------*
double finned x-wing |
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Clement
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 1111 Location: Dar es Salaam Tanzania
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Jan 16 VH |
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Marty R. wrote: | Where's Clement when you need him?
I found this to be quite different from the usual VH. I saw no freebies at the start and populating the grid was more complicated than usual, as were the basics. But after that there was a typical solution.
Quote: | XY-Wing (563), pivot r2c1; r789c2<>3 |
| For almost 24 hrs, no solution on site |
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LloydB
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Skagit Co., WA USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:54 am Post subject: |
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I certainly agree that this was one of the most difficult ones just to get through the basics!
From the position posted by Arkietech the 356 XY-wing centered in r2c1 leads to the solution. |
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Jeff
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 46
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:35 am Post subject: |
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This is a tough puzzle. I am stumped. I have the grid pretty much like the diagram provided by arkietech, except I have a 3 in the following squares: C1R2 (making it 356), C7R2 (making it 359), AND C8R2 (making it 368). After working on this for quite awhile, I cannot figure out how to make those 3's disappear. I would appreciate some help. Many thanks. |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:54 am Post subject: |
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All of your extra 3's are eliminated because the 3 in box 2 must be in row 2, thus precluding a 3 elsewhere in that row.
This technique for eliminating candidates is known as Locked Candidates or Box-Line Interactions. |
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Jeff
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 46
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Marty,
Thanks. I don't know how I missed that!
Jeff |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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After solving only a few squares, naked singles, there is a W-wing 35 - 13 - 13 - 35 in chute 1 that solves it.
Keith |
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