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Free Press May 25, 2012

 
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keith



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Free Press May 25, 2012 Reply with quote
Pretty straightforward.
Code:
Puzzle: FP052512
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | 6 . 9 | 5 . 2 |
| . . . | . 8 . | . . . |
| . . 1 | . . 7 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 6 . . | . . . | 4 7 . |
| 1 5 . | . 3 . | . 8 6 |
| . 9 8 | . . . | . . 3 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | 2 . 5 | 8 . . |
| . . . | . 7 . | . . . |
| 5 . 4 | 3 . 6 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+

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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This offered loads of possibilities. The first solution I noted was a Sashimi X-Wing on 4 in r18. Another Sashimi is on 1 in r19. Both potential DPs 17 in b39 and 18 in b58 have r7c5=9 as a common outcome. Also a Skyscraper on 1 in c58. Plus I'm sure there are others.

Code:

+--------+------------+-------------+
| 8 7  3 | 6   14 9   | 5   14  2   |
| 2 46 5 | 14  8  3   | 167 9   147 |
| 9 46 1 | 5   2  7   | 3   46  8   |
+--------+------------+-------------+
| 6 3  2 | 189 5  18  | 4   7   19  |
| 1 5  7 | 49  3  24  | 29  8   6   |
| 4 9  8 | 7   6  12  | 12  5   3   |
+--------+------------+-------------+
| 7 1  6 | 2   49 5   | 8   3   49  |
| 3 2  9 | 148 7  148 | 16  146 5   |
| 5 8  4 | 3   19 6   | 179 2   179 |
+--------+------------+-------------+

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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Marty seems to have covered most of the VH type moves so I felt obliged to look for more complex patterns such as a

anp(16=4)r8c78-r1c8=(4-1)r1c5=r9c6; r8c46<>1

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Clement



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:34 am    Post subject: Free Press May 25 2012 Reply with quote
Another Sashimi Finned X-Wing on 4 is in col 59; r2c4<>4.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Free Press May 25 2012 Reply with quote
Clement wrote:
Another Sashimi Finned X-Wing on 4 is in col 59; r2c4<>4.

Clement, I don't see it. All I can find on 4 in those columns is an ordinary Skyscraper.
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Clement



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: Free Press May 25 2012 Reply with quote
Marty R. wrote:
Clement wrote:
Another Sashimi Finned X-Wing on 4 is in col 59; r2c4<>4.

Clement, I don't see it. All I can find on 4 in those columns is an ordinary Skyscraper.
My Grid is the same as yours.
The fin in BOX 2 is in r1c5.
The given 8 in BOX 2 breaks the corner of of our proper x-wing if it was not for the fin in r1c5 mentioned above.
If the fin was not there and the given candidate 8 has a 4 plus other candidates we would have a proper x-wing on 4 in col 59 which would allow us to remove the 4 in r2c4.
Now , if r1c5 is 4; r2c4<>4. If r1c5 is not 4, then 4 must be in r7c5 otherwise col 5 will have no 4, so, r7c9<>4, then, 4 must be in r2c9; r2c4<>4.
I don't know whether my explanation is clear enough.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clement, I'm sorry but I'm unable to follow the explanation, although your logic is probably sound since the elimination is correct.

However, let's review what we're talking about, namely, the 4s in c59. There are just two 4s in each column, thus there is no fin. This is a standard Skyscraper in which either r1c5 or r2c9 must be a 4. For examples of Sashimis, see the 4s in r18 and the 1s in r19. Note that in each, one box has two occurrences of the number in question.

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Marty



Code:
+--------+------------+-------------+
| 8 7  3 | 6   14 9   | 5   14  2   |
| 2 46 5 | 14  8  3   | 167 9   147 |
| 9 46 1 | 5   2  7   | 3   46  8   |
+--------+------------+-------------+
| 6 3  2 | 189 5  18  | 4   7   19  |
| 1 5  7 | 49  3  24  | 29  8   6   |
| 4 9  8 | 7   6  12  | 12  5   3   |
+--------+------------+-------------+
| 7 1  6 | 2   49 5   | 8   3   49  |
| 3 2  9 | 148 7  148 | 16  146 5   |
| 5 8  4 | 3   19 6   | 179 2   179 |
+--------+------------+-------------+
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