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Vanhegan Fiendish May 30, 2012

 
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:11 am    Post subject: Vanhegan Fiendish May 30, 2012 Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------*
 |.64|...|...|
 |.7.|3..|.98|
 |...|.19|..7|
 |---+---+---|
 |..6|.5.|.8.|
 |..5|2.1|3..|
 |.3.|.6.|1..|
 |---+---+---|
 |4..|53.|...|
 |68.|..2|.5.|
 |...|...|92.|
 *-----------*
 

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code after basics:
Code:
*--------------------------------------------------*
 | 9    6    4    | 78   278  58   | 25   3    1    |
 | 125  7    12   | 3    24   45   | 6    9    8    |
 | 38   25   38   | 6    1    9    | 25   4    7    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 17   19   6    | 79   5    3    | 4    8    2    |
 | 78   4    5    | 2    78   1    | 3    6    9    |
 | 28   3    289  | 489  6    48   | 1    7    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 4    29   29   | 5    3    7    | 8    1    6    |
 | 6    8    13   | 14   9    2    | 7    5    34   |
 | 135  15   7    | 148  48   6    | 9    2    34   |
 *--------------------------------------------------*

a VH solution is a xy-wing(25-1)r3c2+r2c3|r9c2; r8c3<>1 followed by a BUG+2

A one step solution is anp(8=14)r89c4-(4=8)r9c5-(8=7)r5c5-r1c5=r1c4; r1c4<>8

I also tried to solve the BUG+6 present in the code after basics but one of the cells did not satisfy the BUG condition of three occurrences in each row, column and box; the other 5 cells resulted in a common outcome.

Ted
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:
I also tried to solve the BUG+6


BUG+6 hurts my head to think about. Very Happy
Code:

 *--------------------------------------------------*
 | 9    6    4    | 78   278  58   | 25   3    1    |
 | 125  7    12   | 3   #24  #45   | 6    9    8    |
 | 38   25   38   | 6    1    9    | 25   4    7    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 17   19   6    | 79   5    3    | 4    8    2    |
 | 78   4    5    | 2    7-8  1    | 3    6    9    |
 | 28   3    289  | 489  6   *48   | 1    7    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 4    29   29   | 5    3    7    | 8    1    6    |
 | 6    8    13   | 14   9    2    | 7    5    34   |
 | 135  15   7    | 148 *48   6    | 9    2    34   |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
w-wing
(8=4)r6c6-r2c6=r2c5-(4=8)r9c5 => r5c5<>8; stte

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same XY-Wing as Ted and BUG+2 or W-Wing on 78.
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aran



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:
Code after basics:
Code:
*--------------------------------------------------*
 | 9    6    4    | 78   278  58   | 25   3    1    |
 | 125  7    12   | 3    24   45   | 6    9    8    |
 | 38   25   38   | 6    1    9    | 25   4    7    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 17   19   6    | 79   5    3    | 4    8    2    |
 | 78   4    5    | 2    78   1    | 3    6    9    |
 | 28   3    289  | 489  6    48   | 1    7    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 4    29   29   | 5    3    7    | 8    1    6    |
 | 6    8    13   | 14   9    2    | 7    5    34   |
 | 135  15   7    | 148  48   6    | 9    2    34   |
 *--------------------------------------------------*

I also tried to solve the BUG+6 present in the code after basics but one of the cells did not satisfy the BUG condition of three occurrences in each row, column and box; the other 5 cells resulted in a common outcome.

This can be reduced to BUG+4 considerations as follows
2r2c1=2r6c1-2r6c3 (with no other reductions following)=BUG+4
+4 = 8r1c5, 8r6c4, 1r9c1, 4r9c4
ie 2r2c1={8r1c5, 8r6c4, 1r9c1, 4r9c4}
and all of those =>r4c2=1
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:

Code:
*--------------------------------------------------*
 | 9    6    4    | 78   27+8 58   | 25   3    1    |
 | 15+2 7    12   | 3    24   45   | 6    9    8    |
 | 38   25   38   | 6    1    9    | 25   4    7    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 17   19   6    | 79   5    3    | 4    8    2    |
 | 78   4    5    | 2    78   1    | 3    6    9    |
 |(28)  3    89+2 | 49+8 6    48   | 1    7    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 4    29   29   | 5    3    7    | 8    1    6    |
 | 6    8    13   | 14   9    2    | 7    5    34   |
 | 35+1 15   7    | 18+4 48   6    | 9    2    34   |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
I also tried to solve the BUG+6 present in the code after basics but one of the cells did not satisfy the BUG condition of three occurrences in each row, column and box; the other 5 cells resulted in a common outcome.

I believe this is OK; from the set of all unsolved cells omit r6c1, and then you have a BUG-Lite+6.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aran and Ron,

I greatly appreciate the feedback on this BUG+6 pattern. I originally tried to find a common result for several cells but failed. Given the clue of cell r4c2, it is rather easy to solve.

Aran, I have been thinking about your suggestion to reduce the pattern constraints but am unable to make the mental leap. I recognize the relationship between 2r2c1 & 2r4c3 as you noted, but I fail to understand how that eliminates the original inference 8r6c3.

Ron, I see the BUG-Lite+6 but do not appreciate the rationale to omit cell r6c1. Doing so results in the same condition as Aran suggested but still has 6 inferences.

Maybe another pot of coffee will help otherwise I will try scotch.

Ted
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlanglet wrote:
I see the BUG-Lite+6 but do not appreciate the rationale to omit cell r6c1. Doing so results in the same condition as Aran suggested but still has 6 inferences.

It is essentially the same, but uses an established definition rather than an ad hoc one. For my BUG-Lite+6, the set of selected cells (without the extra candidates) as indicated have each candidate value appearing exactly twice in each row, column and box.

BTW aran used strong inference 2r2c1=2r6c1 for r6c3<>2. Therefore r6c3=2 implies r2c1=2 with the same SI and use of the latter only is sufficient.
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