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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: daily telegraph 12/7 Reply with quote

Code:
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| . . 1 | . . . | 2 . . |
| 6 . . | . . 7 | . . 3 |
| . 5 3 | 6 . 8 | 1 9 . |
|-----------------------|
| . . . | 9 . 3 | . . . |
| . . 5 | . . . | 6 . . |
| . . . | 7 . 2 | . . . |
|-----------------------|
| . 7 6 | 2 . 1 | 9 8 . |
| 4 . . | 5 . . | . . 2 |
| . . 2 | . . . | 5 . . |
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This puzzle is rather peculiar. VERY basic up to here:

Code:


+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 7       48      1        | 3       9       5        | 2       46      68       |
| 6       9       48       | 1       2       7        | 48      5       3        |
| 2       5       3        | 6       4       8        | 1       9       7        |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 18      1468    7        | 9       56      3        | 48      2       158      |
| 3       2       5        | 8       1       4        | 6       7       9        |
| 9       1468    48       | 7       56      2        | 3       14      158      |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 5       7       6        | 2       3       1        | 9       8       4        |
| 4       13      9        | 5       8       6        | 7       13      2        |
| 18      138     2        | 4       7       9        | 5       136     16       |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+


With so many {4,8} cells, I started looking for w-wings and this one is rather effective:

r6c3<>8 => r6c8=1 => r4c7=4 => r2c7=8
Therefore r2c3=4

and it's singles again until the end.

P.S. Practically the same elimination can be made by coloring on 4
-r6c8=r4c7-r2c7=r2c3- which removes 4 from r6c3, giving r6c3=8
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Asellus



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! Forget W-Wings. Go for the remote naked pair {48} at R6C3 and R4C7 (joined classically by the pair of {48}s in R2). It wipes out the <4>s and <8>s in R4C12 and R6C89 and solves the puzzle.
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Johan



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option is the ER for digit <4> in Box 4 (|_ shaped hinge),

eliminating <4> in R6C8, solving the puzzle.
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nataraj



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asellus wrote:
Hey! Forget W-Wings.


I will I will ...

If you protect me from the wrath of the gods that be - and no I dont want to get into that w-wing / remote naked pair discussion again (I do realize there are only {4,9} pairs on your classic path so it is a true approved Seal of Atlas government appointed remote naked pair )
Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey! Forget W-Wings. Go for the remote naked pair {48} at R6C3 and R4C7 (joined classically by the pair of {48}s in R2).


Isn't this just simply the technique known as "Remote Pairs", a simple chain of pairs, as opposed to two pairs joined classically by another pair of pairs? Question Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
Quote:
Hey! Forget W-Wings. Go for the remote naked pair {48} at R6C3 and R4C7 (joined classically by the pair of {48}s in R2).


Isn't this just simply the technique known as "Remote Pairs", a simple chain of pairs, as opposed to two pairs joined classically by another pair of pairs? Question Laughing



my head starts to spin. i feel dizzy. am i going crazy? pairs. joined. classically. simple. chain of pairs joined by chain of pairs.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel ...
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys crack me up
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
my head starts to spin. i feel dizzy. am i going crazy? pairs. joined. classically. simple. chain of pairs joined by chain of pairs.


Hey there, nataraj, what do you expect from an activity that has jellyfish, squirmbags, Bowman Bingo, bifurcation, Sue de Coq, death blossom, fishy cycle, 3D Medusa, skyscrapers, mutant fish, kites, wings, loops, wraps and other such goodies? Question Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
Hey there, nataraj, what do you expect from an activity that has jellyfish, squirmbags, Bowman Bingo, bifurcation, Sue de Coq, death blossom, fishy cycle, 3D Medusa, skyscrapers, mutant fish, kites, wings, loops, wraps and other such goodies?


yeah, right. Aren't we a bunch of loonies? Must watch the diet from now on Wink

He, he. They're coming to take me away, ha ha ... (transport me with pincers, ouch!)

Good night, sleep tight, don't let the squirmbags bite
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to the funny farm. and I love to see those men in their bright white coats. and they're coming to take me away, haha.
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