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5iyubaobao



Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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Location: BeiJing China

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Help Reply with quote

I am from China, and very like to play sudoku.

The following is a puzzle that I can not solve,

+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 3489 2349 2489 | 1 2589 589 | 6 7 359 |
| 789 1 789 | 3 5789 6 | 2 589 4 |
| 6 239 5 | 4 2789 789 | 1 389 39 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 479 8 3 | 79 6 14579 | 59 1459 2 |
| 5 6 2479 | 279 1279 1479 | 3 149 8 |
| 1 249 249 | 289 3 4589 | 7 6 59 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 89 5 1 | 6 89 3 | 4 2 7 |
| 2 349 489 | 5 1789 1789 | 89 389 6 |
| 389 7 6 | 89 4 2 | 589 3589 1 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+

who can tell me which is the next digital? and how you find it. Thank you.
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5iyubaobao



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the original game

+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | 1 . . | 6 7 . |
| . . . | . . 6 | . . 4 |
| . . 5 | 4 . . | 1 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 8 3 | . 6 . | . . 2 |
| 5 . . | . . . | . . 8 |
| 1 . . | . 3 . | 7 6 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 1 | . . 3 | 4 . . |
| 2 . . | 5 . . | . . . |
| . 7 6 | . . 2 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
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Marty R.



Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Location: Rochester, NY, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Code:
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 3489 2349 2489 | 1   2589 589   | 6   7     359|
| 789  1    789  | 3   5789 6     | 2   589   4  |
| 6    239  5    | 4   2789 789   | 1   389   39 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 479  8    3    | 79  6    14579 | 59  1459  2  |
| 5    6    2479 | 279 1279 1479  | 3   149   8  |
| 1    249  249  | 289 3    4589  | 7   6     59 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 89   5    1    | 6   89   3     | 4   2     7  |
| 2    349  489  | 5   1789 1789  | 89  389   6  |
| 389  7    6    | 89  4    2     | 589 3589  1  |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+


In box 3, you need to remove the 3 from column 8. In box 9, you need to remove the 8s from column 8. In box 8, because of the 89 pair, you can remove the 89s from row 8 in box 8. In box 5, the 2s and 7s may be removed from columns 5 and 6. You might check around and see if there are more similar moves. I didn't check everything. After you make the eliminations, there may be some moves that are apparent.

If not, don't hesitate to ask again.
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5iyubaobao



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Thank you for your help.

Based on your method, I have got the following rusult, I checked it carefully, but still I can not get answer. Whether there are some advanced methods I don't know?

I use the “Draw/play” tool to caculate this puzzle, it can solve it. But no detailed calculation step provided.

So, could you help me?

Code:

+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 3489 2349 2489 | 1   2589 89    | 6   7     359|
| 789  1    789  | 3   589  6     | 2   589   4  |
| 6    239  5    | 4   2789 789   | 1   89    39 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 479  8    3    | 79  6    1459  | 59  14    2  |
| 5    6    27   | 27  19   149   | 3   14    8  |
| 1    249  249  | 289 3    4589  | 7   6     59 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 89   5    1    | 6   89   3     | 4   2     7  |
| 2    349  489  | 5   17   17    | 89  39    6  |
| 389  7    6    | 89  4    2     | 589 359   1  |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
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Marty R.



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Location: Rochester, NY, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5iyubaobao wrote:
Hi, Thank you for your help.

Based on your method, I have got the following rusult, I checked it carefully, but still I can not get answer. Whether there are some advanced methods I don't know?

I use the “Draw/play” tool to caculate this puzzle, it can solve it. But no detailed calculation step provided.

So, could you help me?

Code:

+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 3489 2349 2489 | 1   2589 89    | 6   7     359|
| 789  1    789  | 3   589  6     | 2   589   4  |
| 6    239  5    | 4   2789 789   | 1   89    39 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 479  8    3    | 79  6    1459  | 59  14    2  |
| 5    6    27   | 27  19   149   | 3   14    8  |
| 1    249  249  | 289 3    4589  | 7   6     59 |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+
| 89   5    1    | 6   89   3     | 4   2     7  |
| 2    349  489  | 5   17   17    | 89  39    6  |
| 389  7    6    | 89  4    2     | 589 359   1  |
+----------------+----------------+--------------+


In row 5, the only possibilities for 9 are in box 5. Therefore, in box 5, you may remove the 9s from rows 4 and 6. That should allow you to make some progress. Good luck.
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5iyubaobao



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I have solved it.

Thank you very much !!!
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5iyubaobao wrote:
OK, I have solved it.

Thank you very much !!!


You're quite welcome.
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