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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: A little more than VH Reply with quote

This is today's Mepham competition puzzle:
Code:
Puzzle: MM060808d
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | 6 . . | 4 . . |
| . . 5 | . 2 3 | . . . |
| . . 7 | 1 . 9 | . . 6 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 4 . | . . . | . . 9 |
| . 5 . | . . . | . 3 . |
| 8 . 9 | . . . | 7 5 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 6 . . | 2 . 4 | 5 . . |
| . . . | 5 3 . | 8 . . |
| . . 3 | . . 6 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
Keith
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
.------------------.------------------.------------------.
| 129   3     12   | 6     78    78   | 4     19    5    |
| 19    6     5    | 4     2     3    | 19    78    78   |
| 4     8     7    | 1     5     9    | 3     2     6    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 3     4     26   | 78    178   5    | 26    18    9    |
| 7     5     126  | 9     4     128  | 126   3     128  |
| 8     12    9    | 3     6     12   | 7     5     4    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 6     17    8    | 2     179   4    | 5     179   3    |
| 12    9     4    | 5     3     17   | 8     6     127  |
| 5     127   3    | 78    1789  6    | 129   4     127  |
'------------------'------------------'------------------'


first thing I see is a UR
then I think a little more examination is required.

edit:
I got it in two moves...first a UR...
second, using an extended M-wing exploiting the {1,9} pairs in boxes 1 and 3
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a nice M-Wing on the 12s in boxes 47 which takes out the 1 in r8c6 which looks like it will help considerably.
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norm,

You don't need the UR.
Code:
.------------------.------------------.------------------.
| 129   3     12   | 6     78    78   | 4     19    5    |
| 19    6     5    | 4     2     3    | 19    78    78   |
| 4     8     7    | 1     5     9    | 3     2     6    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 3     4     26   | 78    178   5    | 26    18    9    |
| 7     5     126  | 9     4     128  | 126   3     128  |
| 8     12b   9    | 3     6     12c  | 7     5     4    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 6     17    8    | 2     179   4    | 5     179   3    |
| 12a   9     4    | 5     3    -17   | 8     6     127  |
| 5     127   3    | 78    1789  6    | 129   4     127  |
'------------------'------------------'------------------'
The way I saw it:

a and b are a complementary pair, they have the same value. (They share the same set of unsolved buddies in B7 and C2.) So, a and c are a remote pair, and you can eliminate <1> in R8C6.

Another way to see it is that a and c are a W-wing, joined by the strong link on <2> in C2.

Keith
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
Norm,

You don't need the UR.
Code:
.------------------.------------------.------------------.
| 129   3     12   | 6     78    78   | 4     19    5    |
| 19    6     5    | 4     2     3    | 19    78    78   |
| 4     8     7    | 1     5     9    | 3     2     6    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 3     4     26   | 78    178   5    | 26    18    9    |
| 7     5     126  | 9     4     128  | 126   3     128  |
| 8     12b   9    | 3     6     12c  | 7     5     4    |
:------------------+------------------+------------------:
| 6     17    8    | 2     179   4    | 5     179   3    |
| 12a   9     4    | 5     3    -17   | 8     6     127  |
| 5     127   3    | 78    1789  6    | 129   4     127  |
'------------------'------------------'------------------'
The way I saw it:

a and b are a complementary pair, they have the same value. (They share the same set of unsolved buddies in B7 and C2.) So, a and c are a remote pair, and you can eliminate <1> in R8C6.

Another way to see it is that a and c are a W-wing, joined by the strong link on <2> in C2.

Keith


that was nice Keith, I see it. w-wing on {1,2} stong link on 2 removes the 1 in r8c6
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