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tlanglet
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: Menneske SH to occupy our time |
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|5..|...|84.|
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A Menneske Super Hard to occupy our time while waiting for a local VH.
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wapati
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 472 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada.
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I see two finned x-wings and a 4 cell xy-chain.
That is hard enough. Thnx. |
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Asellus
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 865 Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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For me, it was a one-step solution. |
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ravel
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 536
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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There is a useful useless w-wing. |
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tlanglet
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I also found the useful useless w-wing.
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cgordon
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 769 Location: ontario, canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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It did me in! I think I found the two finned x-wings - if they are indeed at R67 to get rid of 4 in R4C7 and at R58 to get rid of 8 in R9C8. But I'm stuck after that. |
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Earl
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 677 Location: Victoria, KS
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Vh wait |
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Asellus,
"For me, a one step solution."
You have a doubting Thomas here.
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storm_norm
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1741
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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one step solution extending the pincers {4} from the W-wing.
(4)r8c2=(4)r7c1-(4=6)r7c7-(6)r4c7=(6)r4c4-(6=4)r5c4; r5c2 <> 4 |
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Asellus
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 865 Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Earl wrote: | You have a doubting Thomas here. |
I didn't see that interesting W-Wing with pincer transport. For me, it was a 4-cell XY Chain, possibly the same as wapati's though this one doesn't depend on the finned fish:
(4=3)r7c1 - (3=6)r7c8 - (6=8)r5c8 - (8=4)r5c2; r6c1|r8c2<>4 |
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ravel
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 536
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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4-cell xy-chains are also called "generalized xy-wings". For me an own name is justified by the fact, that i look for them sytematically like for xy-wings, while i find longer xy-chains more or less accidentally.
I go through the units. Whenever there is a pair of bivalue cells with a common digit (here the 6 in column 8), i look, if both other digits (8 and 3) force the same number x by seeing a bivalue cell 8x and 3x resp.
This is done very quickly (faster than an xy-wing search), because normally there are only a few potential "pivot pairs". |
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storm_norm
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1741
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Ravel,
are you ending your posting career on this site at 999 posts?? |
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