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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: oct 10 competition | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		  . . .|. . 1|9 . 4
 
. . .|. . .|7 . 6
 
9 . .|. 4 6|. 1 2
 
-----+-----+-----
 
. 5 3|. 8 .|. . .
 
1 . .|. . .|. . 9
 
. . .|. 7 .|8 5 .
 
-----+-----+-----
 
3 8 .|9 . .|. . 7
 
5 . 1|. . .|. . .
 
7 . 9|6 . .|. . . | 	  
 
 
VH methods solve it in two.  the ambitious chain searchers will solve it in one.
 
 
on the same note, I'd also like to include today's one trick pony as a similar type.
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  . . 1|. . 8|. . .
 
. 3 8|. . .|9 . .
 
. . .|3 2 .|. . 5
 
-----+-----+-----
 
. 7 .|6 . .|. . .
 
6 . 5|. . .|2 . 9
 
. . .|. . 5|. 4 .
 
-----+-----+-----
 
2 . .|. 6 4|. . .
 
. . 3|. . .|1 8 .
 
. . .|7 . .|4 . . | 	  
 
in this case the usual (x,xy,xyz) - wing moves or even the ambitious xy-chain doesn't do what a simple coloring move will.  I will have to see how many w-wings or m-wings solve it. | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				As suggested, I solved the first puzzle in two moves:  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | xy <345> and a BUG+1. | 	   I still need to try the second puzzle
 
 
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		arkietech
 
 
  Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 1834 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | tlanglet wrote: | 	 		  As suggested, I solved the first puzzle in two moves:  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | xy <345> and a BUG+1. | 	    | 	  
 
 
Two moves for me also:
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | xy345 and xy245 instead of bug | 	 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				W-wing and BUG+1.
 
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject:  | 
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				On the second puzzle, digit <1> was the killer. I required two moves to do the deed: 	  | Quote: | 	 		  A kite in box 4 with the pincer at r7c2 transported to r6c4 via r7c4 and the pincer at r4c9 transported to r5c2 via r4c1 to delete <1> at r5c56. Then coloring on <1> eliminates eight <1s> to complete the puzzle.
 
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		arkietech
 
 
  Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 1834 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | tlanglet wrote: | 	 		  On the second puzzle, digit <1> was the killer. I required two moves to do the deed: 	  | Quote: | 	 		  A kite in box 4 with the pincer at r7c2 transported to r6c4 via r7c4 and the pincer at r4c9 transported to r5c2 via r4c1 to delete <1> at r5c56. Then coloring on <1> eliminates eight <1s> to complete the puzzle.
 
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Nice    Did anyone find the one trick pony? | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Nice  Did anyone find the one trick pony? | 	  
 
 
yes, a single digit coloring move will finish it. | 
			 
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		Asellus
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Yes, a simple 5-cell basic coloring is all that is needed.
 
 
However, there is a more complicated, but interesting, single step solution:
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  +-----------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 5   2   1 | 9  [47]   8    |[67]  3   [46]  |
 
| 7   3   8 | 5  [14]   6    | 9    2   [14]  |
 
| 9   4   6 | 3   2    [17]  | 8   [17]  5    |
 
+-----------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 18  7   4 | 6   9     2    | 3    5    18   |
 
| 6   18  5 | 4   1378 [17]3 | 2   [17]  9    |
 
| 3   9   2 | 18 [17]8  5    |[67]  4   [16]8 |
 
+-----------+----------------+----------------+
 
| 2   18  7 | 18  6     4    | 5    9    3    |
 
| 4   6   3 | 2   5     9    | 1    8    7    |
 
| 18  5   9 | 7   138   13   | 4    6    2    |
 
+-----------+----------------+----------------+ | 	  
 
The digits shown in brackets form a DP.  This in turn creates the {38} pseudo-cell (3)r5c6=(8)r6c59.
 
 
That pseudo-cell forms a 138 "XY Wing":
 
(8=1)r7c4 - (1=3)r9c6 - (3)r5c6=(8)r6c59
 
 
This eliminates <8> from r6c4.
 
 
It might seem weird, but this was the one-step solution I noticed first. | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		  | Did anyone find the one trick pony? | 	  
 
Not as involved as Asellus' solution, but slightly more complex than a single-digit solution.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   Remote Pair (18)
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  5     2     1     |  9     47    8     |  67    3     46    |
 
 |  7     3     8     |  5     14    6     |  9     2     14    |
 
 |  9     4     6     |  3     2     17    |  8     17    5     |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  18    7     4     |  6     9     2     |  3     5     18    |
 
 |  6    *18    5     |  4     37-18 137   |  2     17    9     |
 
 |  3     9     2     | *18    178   5     |  67    4     168   |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  2    *18    7     | *18    6     4     |  5     9     3     |
 
 |  4     6     3     |  2     5     9     |  1     8     7     |
 
 |  18    5     9     |  7     138   13    |  4     6     2     |
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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 	  | Code: | 	 		   W-Wing (18) [r6c4]+(8)r5+[r7c2]  =>  [r7c4]<>1
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 |  5     2     1     |  9     47    8     |  67    3     46    |
 
 |  7     3     8     |  5     14    6     |  9     2     14    |
 
 |  9     4     6     |  3     2     17    |  8     17    5     |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  18    7     4     |  6     9     2     |  3     5     18    |
 
 |  6     18#   5     |  4     1378# 137   |  2     17    9     |
 
 |  3     9     2     | *18    178   5     |  67    4     168   |
 
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 
 |  2    *18    7     |  8-1   6     4     |  5     9     3     |
 
 |  4     6     3     |  2     5     9     |  1     8     7     |
 
 |  18    5     9     |  7     138   13    |  4     6     2     |
 
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				want another one step puzzle?  
 
 
this is a puzzle posted by GSF (#116) in patterns game #047.  I like what Ravel does sometimes in providing some interesting puzzles from those games so I had a peak at some VH+ puzzles around a 7.0 rating.  However, this puzzle does succomb to a move which should be considered less than 7.0 IMO.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  . . 1|. . 2|. . 3
 
. 4 .|. . .|. 5 .
 
6 . .|. 7 .|8 . .
 
-----+-----+-----
 
. . .|1 . 6|. . 9
 
. . 9|. . .|6 . .
 
3 . .|9 . 7|. . .
 
-----+-----+-----
 
. . 5|. 1 .|. . 4
 
. 2 .|. . .|. 9 .
 
4 . .|8 . .|3 . . | 	  
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  .------------------------.------------------------.------------------------.
 
| 5789    5789    1      | 456     45689   2      | 479     467     3      |
 
| 2789    4       2378   | 36      3689    1389   | 1279    5       1267   |
 
| 6       359     23     | 345     7       13459  | 8       124     12     |
 
:------------------------+------------------------+------------------------:
 
| 2578    578     2478   | 1       23458   6      | 2457    23478   9      |
 
| 12578   1578    9      | 2345    23458   3458   | 6       123478  12578  |
 
| 3       1568    2468   | 9       2458    7      | 1245    1248    1258   |
 
:------------------------+------------------------+------------------------:
 
| 789     36789   5      | 2367    1       39     | 27      2678    4      |
 
| 178     2       3678   | 34567   3456    345    | 157     9       15678  |
 
| 4       1679    67     | 8       2569    59     | 3       1267    12567  |
 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I see an empty rectangle. It is easy when you are set up    
 
 
Thanks norm. I like puzzles like this. | 
			 
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