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Very Hard, March 10

 
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Very Hard, March 10 Reply with quote

A two-stepper for me.

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X-Wing on 8 and W-Wing on 89
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crunched



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the x wing on 8s cleared several 8s.
Below is the grid after clearance from the x-wing on 8s.
There was a 5-8-9 xyz that takes out the 8 in r1c3, but that proved to be unneeded.
For me, it was " a 3-8-9 xy wing (taking out yet another eight) that solved the puzzle. "

Code:

+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 589 6  1489 | 7 259  89  | 3   1245 18 |
| 3   58 189  | 4 2569 689 | 189 125  7  |
| 2   7  489  | 3 59   1   | 489 45   6  |
+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 58  58 3    | 2 1    7   | 6   9    4  |
| 4   1  2    | 9 36   36  | 7   8    5  |
| 7   9  6    | 5 8    4   | 2   13   13 |
+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 1   34 89   | 6 39   5   | 48  7    2  |
| 6   34 5    | 8 7    2   | 14  134  9  |
| 89  2  7    | 1 4    39  | 5   6    38 |
+-------------+------------+-------------+

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sdq_pete



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, X-wing on 8 (which I spotted quite quickly for once) and XY on 389
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cgordon



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - same as above. I did find an x-wing on <9> and a Type 6 UR (25) -but still ended up having to use the 389 xy-wing. A good one.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I'm Jonathan.

I've been going through these old sudoku's for the past few months and I'm stuck on this one. I can't see how you find the 5 in r8c3.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jj63 wrote:
Hello, I'm Jonathan.

I've been going through these old sudoku's for the past few months and I'm stuck on this one. I can't see how you find the 5 in r8c3.

Hello Jonathan and welcome to the forum.

Code:

+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 589 6  1489 | 7 259  89  | 3   1245 18 |
| 3   58 189  | 4 2569 689 | 189 125  7  |
| 2   7  489  | 3 59   1   | 489 45   6  |
+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 58  58 3    | 2 1    7   | 6   9    4  |
| 4   1  2    | 9 36   36  | 7   8    5  |
| 7   9  6    | 5 8    4   | 2   13   13 |
+-------------+------------+-------------+
| 1   34 89   | 6 39   5   | 48  7    2  |
| 6   34 5    | 8 7    2   | 14  134  9  |
| 89  2  7    | 1 4    39  | 5   6    38 |
+-------------+------------+-------------+

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I don't know how the grid developed, but boxes 8 and 9 already have a 5, so box 7 must have its 5 in row 8. Column 1 has the 589 triple and column 2 has the 58 double, so that leaves column 3. Hope that helps, if not, feel free to post your grid and ask away.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is as far as I got. I can't see the 7's in box 2,3,8 or the 5's in 7,9.


Code:
+---------------+---------------+---------------+
| 589 6    1459 | 78  2579  89  | 3    1245 178 |
| 3   58   1589 | 4   25679 689 | 1589 125  178 |
| 2   7    4589 | 3   59  1     | 4589 45   6   |
+---------------+---------------+---------------+
| 58  58   3    | 2   1     7   | 6    9    4   |
| 4   1    2    | 9   36    36  | 7    8    5   |
| 7   9    6    | 5   8     4   | 2    13   13  |
+---------------+---------------+---------------+
| 1   34   89   | 6   349   5   | 48   7    2   |
| 6   34   58   | 178 347   2   | 1458 1345 9   |
| 589 2    7    | 18  349   389 | 1458 6    138 |
+---------------+---------------+---------------+


(edited to fix spacing. keith)
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
+-------------+---------------+---------------+
| 589 6  1459 | 78  2579  89  | 3    1245 178 |
| 3   58 1589 | 4   25679 689 | 1589 125  178 |
| 2   7  4589 | 3   59    1   | 4589 45   6   |
+-------------+---------------+---------------+
| 58  58 3    | 2   1     7   | 6    9    4   |
| 4   1  2    | 9   36    36  | 7    8    5   |
| 7   9  6    | 5   8     4   | 2    13   13  |
+-------------+---------------+---------------+
| 1   34 89   | 6   349   5   | 48   7    2   |
| 6   34 58   | 178 347   2   | 1458 1345 9   |
| 589 2  7    | 18  349   389 | 1458 6    138 |
+-------------+---------------+---------------+

OK Jonathan, here's the answer. The grid that was first posted here by Crunched was after an X-Wing on 8. The X-Wing is in rows 37 and columns 37. That Wing removes the 8 from r8c3. Since we don't know if you're familiar or not with X-Wings, please ask if you're not or try this link:

http://www.sudopedia.org/wiki/X-Wing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I didn't see that at all. It's been driving me crazy since last night.
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