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		| agv 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: April 29 H |   |  
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				| This is embarrassing, but...I cannot make this puzzle work. It's only a hard, which usually goes pretty smoothly for me, and it doesn't seem especially tricky as I work my way through it. But I've started fresh half a dozen times, and each time I get to the home stretch, I end up with an unsolvable error. 
 (Sorry, I don't speak Sudoku, so I don't know how to describe my efforts in terms of whirligigs or west wings or flying escargot.)
 
 I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the puzzle, so just tell me--uh, is there anything unusual about this one? Or do I just need to get lots and lots of sleep?
 
 thanks--
 agv
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary with this puzzle. If you post your position, someone can help you out. 
 Welcome to the forum.
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| agv, 
 Is this where you are stuck?
  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 169   469   146   | 8     5     2     | 46    7     3     |
 | 67    456   2     | 9     3     67    | 8     456   1     |
 | 1678  4568  3     | 147   1467  167   | 456   9     2     |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 5     2     1467  | 147   8     3     | 9     146   467   |
 | 178   48    147   | 6     2     9     | 1457  3     457   |
 | 1367  346   9     | 5     147   17    | 1467  2     8     |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 269   1     56    | 27    67    8     | 3     456   45679 |
 | 4     369   8     | 137   167   5     | 2     16    679   |
 | 236   7     56    | 123   9     4     | 156   8     56    |
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 You need to find a pair in R2, a pair in C3 and B7, and a triple in B9.
 
 Before this point, and after, it is all singles.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Keith
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		| agv 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks, Marty! Hi, Keith-- 
 No, that's not exactly it. I'd eliminated a bit more clutter, but somewhere I must have been having a brain fa- er, froot loop. On my fifteenth or sixteenth attempt, everything just followed normally and I got to the end of it. I must have been making some flying leap in logic somewhere. (...and then a miracle occurs...)
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