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Vanhegan Fiendish September 24

 
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Vanhegan Fiendish September 24 Reply with quote

A VH style puzzle with numerous variations.

Code:

+-------+-------+-------+
| 7 . . | . . . | . . . |
| . . . | . . . | . 4 7 |
| . 5 8 | 7 . . | 1 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 7 . | 8 9 . | 5 6 2 |
| . 8 . | 5 . 7 | . 3 . |
| 5 3 9 | . 1 6 | . 7 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 7 | . . 1 | 8 2 . |
| 6 1 . | . . . | . . . |
| . . . | . . . | . . 9 |
+-------+-------+-------+

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arkietech



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one stepper Very Happy :
Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 7     246   1234  | 1346  36    9     | 236   8     5     |
 | 139   269   123   | 136   8     5     | 236   4     7     |
 | 34    5     8     | 7     236   24    | 1     9     36    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 14    7     14    | 8     9     3     | 5     6     2     |
 | 2     8     6     | 5     4     7     | 9     3     1     |
 | 5     3     9     | 2     1     6     | 4     7     8     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 349   49    7     | 346   5     1     | 8     2     346   |
 | 6     1     234   | 9     237   8     | 37    5     34    |
 | 8     24    5     | 36    367   24    | 367   1     9     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
(4)r3c1=(4-2)r3c6=(2)r3c5-(2)r8c5=(2-3)r8c3=(3)r7c1-(3=4)r3c1 => r3c1=4
This is fun!
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I ever wish that I could find these on a regular basis.

After basics:

Code:
 <26> UR in [r12c27] forces [r9c2]=2 and/or [r9c7]=6

 [r9c2]=2 [r9c6]=4             => [r7c4]<>4
 [r9c7]=6 [r9c45]<>6 [r7c4]=6  => [r7c4]<>4
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 |  7    *26+4  1234  |  1346  36    9     | *26+3  8     5     |
 |  139  *26+9  123   |  136   8     5     | *26+3  4     7     |
 |  34    5     8     |  7     236   24    |  1     9     36    |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  14    7     14    |  8     9     3     |  5     6     2     |
 |  2     8     6     |  5     4     7     |  9     3     1     |
 |  5     3     9     |  2     1     6     |  4     7     8     |
 |--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
 |  349   49    7     |  36-4  5     1     |  8     2     346   |
 |  6     1     234   |  9     237   8     |  37    5     34    |
 |  8    @24    5     |  36    367   24    | @367   1     9     |
 +--------------------------------------------------------------+
 # 48 eliminations remain
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used simple coloring on 4 followed by an XY-Chain.
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one Danny.

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Myth Jellies



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 7     246   1234  | 1346  36    9     | 236   8     5     |
 | 139   269   123   | 136   8     5     | 236   4     7     |
 | 34    5     8     | 7     236   24    | 1     9     36    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 14    7     14    | 8     9     3     | 5     6     2     |
 | 2     8     6     | 5     4     7     | 9     3     1     |
 | 5     3     9     | 2     1     6     | 4     7     8     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 349   49    7     | 346   5     1     | 8     2     346   |
 | 6     1     234   | 9     37+2  8     | 37    5     34    |
 | 8     24    5     |#36    37+6  24    | 37+6  1     9     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*

Even though this UR doesn't solve to the end, it is an interesting little mix that is perhaps easiest to see if you look along the rows. From row 8 you have the avoidance option of (2)r8c5, which is really (27)r89c5 thanks to the locked sevens in the deadly pattern. From row 9 you have the avoidance option of the three escaping to r9c4. Combine the two and you get r89c5 <> 3
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 7     246   1234  | 1346  36    9     | 236   8     5     |
 | 139   269   123   |#136   8     5     | 236   4     7     |
 | 34    5     8     | 7     236   24    | 1     9     36    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 14    7     14    | 8     9     3     | 5     6     2     |
 | 2     8     6     | 5     4     7     | 9     3     1     |
 | 5     3     9     | 2     1     6     | 4     7     8     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 349   49    7     |#346   5     1     | 8     2     346   |
 | 6     1     234   | 9     237   8     | 37    5     34    |
 | 8     24    5     |#36    367   24    | 367   1     9     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*

This doesn’t solve the puzzle, but a bit interesting on using “Empty Cell” pattern Very Happy.
Look r279c4 => to avoid empty cell: at least one of [(1)r2c4, (4)r7c4] must be true.
(1)r2c4=(4)r7c4-(4=9)r7c2-(9)r2c2=(9)r2c1 => r2c1<>1

ttt
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daj95376



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttt: Your "Empty Cell" strong link is interesting; but, in this case, is indirectly present by using one more cell in [c4].

(1)r2c4 = (1-4)r1c4 = r7c4 - (4=9)r7c2 - r2c2 = (9)r2c1; => r2c1<>1
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Asellus



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "empty cell" inference is just another name for the standard ALS strong inference. Here, it is within the 3-cell 1346 ALS:

ALS[(1)r2c4=(4)r7c4]r279c4

It is always true that all instances (i.e. considered as a group) of any two candidates within an ALS have a strong inference between them. In this particular case, the <1> and <4> each occur singly in the ALS so no grouping was required.

In my opinion, these ALS inferences are unjustly overlooked in grids and are frequently very useful.
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