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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: Free Press Apr 16, 2010 |
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Nice! Code: | Puzzle: FP041610
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . . . | . . 6 |
| 9 . 5 | 8 . 2 | . . 4 |
| . 2 . | 1 . . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 3 4 . | . . 6 | . 8 1 |
| . . . | . . 1 | . . . |
| 8 7 . | . . . | . 3 5 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . . 9 | . 4 . |
| 6 . . | 4 . . | 2 . 3 |
| 7 . . | . . . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+ | Keith |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Couple of W-Wings (89, 38) |
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keith
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 3355 Location: near Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | There is an M-wing that is a one-stepper. | Keith |
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tlanglet
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I took the longer route with a boulder in the path.
ALS A 138 r7c35
ALS B 178 r8c56
Exclusive: 1
Common: 8
r8c3<>8,
(8=7)r3c9 - (7=3)r2c7 - r2c5 = r7c5 - (3=8)r7c3; r7c9<>8,
Still another interesting (and maybe invalid) pattern.
Code: | *--------------------------------------------------*
| 1 38 378 | 9 4 357 | 357 2 6 |
| 9 6 5 | 8 37 2 | 37 1 4 |
| 4 2 37 | 1 6 357 | 357 9 8 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 3 4 2 | 7 5 6 | 9 8 1 |
| 5 9 6 | 3 8 1 | 4 7 2 |
| 8 7 1 | 2 9 4 | 6 3 5 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 2 5 38 | 6 13 9 | 18 4 7 |
| 6 18 9 | 4 17 78 | 2 5 3 |
| 7 138 4 | 5 2 38 | 18 6 9 |
*--------------------------------------------------* |
Note the pattern in r13c367. Now view it as a (35), (37), (57) configuration (which I think is termed a BUG lite).
Looking at the outside row implications to prevent the deadly pattern, we find:
3: r1c2
5: None
7: None
Thus, r1c2=3 to complete the puzzle.
As always, comments are appreciated.
Ted |
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Luke451
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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tlanglet wrote: | Still another interesting (and maybe invalid) pattern.
Code: | *--------------------------------------------------*
| 1 38 378 | 9 4 357 | 357 2 6 |
| 9 6 5 | 8 37 2 | 37 1 4 |
| 4 2 37 | 1 6 357 | 357 9 8 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 3 4 2 | 7 5 6 | 9 8 1 |
| 5 9 6 | 3 8 1 | 4 7 2 |
| 8 7 1 | 2 9 4 | 6 3 5 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 2 5 38 | 6 13 9 | 18 4 7 |
| 6 18 9 | 4 17 78 | 2 5 3 |
| 7 138 4 | 5 2 38 | 18 6 9 |
*--------------------------------------------------* |
Note the pattern in r13c367. Now view it as a (35), (37), (57) configuration (which I think is termed a BUG lite).
Looking at the outside row implications to prevent the deadly pattern, we find:
3: r1c2
5: None
7: None
Thus, r1c2=3 to complete the puzzle.
As always, comments are appreciated.
Ted |
I believe in Ted! ...but since you invited comments, I'll be the kibitzer.
I think your pattern is valid, but you're making it slightly more difficult than need be. Your pattern is a classic type 1 MUG.
How can you tell? A MUG is a composite of two or more overlapping BUG-Lites. Here they are:
Together you get Code: | 37 357 357
37 357 357 |
It's a permutation of this archetype: Code: | 357 357 357
357 357 357 |
Simple as that, the only thing preventing the MUG is (8)r1c3, so it can be placed.
Another cool find ...you're on fire this week. |
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tlanglet
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback Luke. My understanding of URs, BUGs, Bug-Lites, MUGs , DPs, etc is still a fog. I truely need to read/understand the thread by Myth.
In the meantime, I appreciate support by those that already have insight into this world.
Ted |
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Luke451
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: |
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tlanglet wrote: | Thanks for the feedback Luke. My understanding of URs, BUGs, Bug-Lites, MUGs , DPs, etc is still a fog. I truely need to read/understand the thread by Myth.
In the meantime, I appreciate support by those that already have insight into this world.
Ted |
I'm far from the best source for insight, be warned. On the subject of advanced deadly patterns, get corroboration on anything I claim. I'm still learning this stuff myself, and there is a lot of confusion to go around.
BTW, have you forgotten that Myth Jellies cross posted his MUG paper here at Daily?
Compare your MUG above to this one you discussed earlier with Ravel and Danny.
Here's another from Norm.
Captain Pete pointed out this one, which is as close to the archetype as you'll see (rows 78.) |
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