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daj95376
Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 3854
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:18 am Post subject: Puzzle 10/07/20: B |
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My rating guideline is gone. It wasn't being used anyway.
Code: | +-----------------------+
| 4 8 . | . 2 . | . 1 . |
| 5 9 3 | 6 . . | . . 2 |
| . 1 . | 4 . 3 | . . . |
|-------+-------+-------|
| . 3 1 | . 6 5 | 4 . . |
| 8 . . | 1 4 . | . . 5 |
| . . 5 | 3 . 2 | . . . |
|-------+-------+-------|
| . . . | 2 . . | 1 9 . |
| 2 . . | . . . | 3 5 . |
| . 5 . | . 3 . | . . 4 |
+-----------------------+
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site |
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Luke451
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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There are easier ways to go about this, but this looks interesting.
A lot of overlapping URs here. Or maybe the overlap of a (678)BUG-Lite and two URs, (48) and (67).
Dunno for sure, but I get the notion that this forms a MUG from this post by Asellus. Come to think of it, he didn't sound so confident, either :-)
Code: | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 4 8 67 | 5 2 79 | 679 1 3 |
| 5 9 3 | 6 178 18 | 78 4 2 |
| 67 1 2 | 4 789 3 | 5 678 6789 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 79 3 1 | 789 6 5 | 4 2 789 |
| 8 2 67 | 1 4 79 | 679 3 5 |
| 679 4 5 | 3 789 2 | 6789 678 1 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 3 *67 *48 | 2 5 *468 | 1 9 *678 |
| 2 *67 *48+9 | 789 1789 *468+1 | 3 5 *678 |
| 1 5 89 | 789 3 68 | 2 678 4 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------* |
If the MUG's valid, either the +(9) or +(1) must be true, so (9)r8c3=(1)r8c6.
(8=9)r9c3-(9)r8c3=(1)r8c6-(1=8)r2c3 =>r9c6<>8=6.
Opens up a Type 1 UR on (67) for STE.
So, the question is, To MUG or not to MUG... |
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peterj
Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 974 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Luke, looks like a nice move! However, I don't know my MUGs from my BUGs...
For the record, I did two moves..
Code: | w-wing(79) (7=9)r4c1 - r4c9=r3c3 - r1c7=r1c6 - (9=7)r5c6; r5c3<>7
type 1 UR(67) r78c29; r8c9<>67 |
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ronk
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 398
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Luke451 wrote: | Dunno for sure, but I get the notion that this forms a MUG from this post by Asellus. Come to think of it, he didn't sound so confident, either
Code: | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 4 8 67 | 5 2 79 | 679 1 3 |
| 5 9 3 | 6 178 18 | 78 4 2 |
| 67 1 2 | 4 789 3 | 5 678 6789 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 79 3 1 | 789 6 5 | 4 2 789 |
| 8 2 67 | 1 4 79 | 679 3 5 |
| 679 4 5 | 3 789 2 | 6789 678 1 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 3 *67 *48 | 2 5 *468 | 1 9 *678 |
| 2 *67 *48+9 | 789 1789 *468+1 | 3 5 *678 |
| 1 5 89 | 789 3 68 | 2 678 4 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------* |
If the MUG's valid, either the +(9) or +(1) must be true, so (9)r8c3=(1)r8c6.
(8=9)r9c3-(9)r8c3=(1)r8c6-(1=8)r2c3 =>r9c6<>8=6.
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So, the question is, To MUG or not to MUG... |
MUG away, MUG away, MUG away In a Dead Sea Scrolls thread ...
Myth Jellies wrote: |
But the following would work as a potential MUG uniqueness pattern
Code: | . abcd . | abcd abcd . | . abcd .
. abcd . | abcd abcd . | . abcd .
. . . | . . . | . . .
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. . . | . . . | . . . |
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Myth continued to show that the unavoidable sets associated with this pattern are either a U8 or two U4s.
Rather than as unavoidable sets, it's likely easier for solvers to understand as deadly patterns. In a puzzle with multiple solutions, the above would resolve to a single BUG-Lite or two URs. One of twelve possible BUG-Lites is ... Code: |
. ab . | ac bd . | . cd .
. ab . | ac bd . | . cd .
. . . | . . . | . . .
-----------+-------------+------------
. . . | . . . | . . . |
The other eleven are merely value permutations of the above. One of twelve possible URs is ... Code: |
. ab . | cd ab . | . cd .
. ab . | cd ab . | . cd .
. . . | . . . | . . .
-----------+-------------+------------
. . . | . . . | . . . |
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Luke451
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Southern Northern California
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for checking that one out, Ron. Are you saying you think the (9)r8c3=(1)r8c6 inference is valid, then?
Here's a look at the BUG-Lite breakdown, same cells, same deduction:
Code: | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 4 8 67 | 5 2 79 | 679 1 3 |
| 5 9 3 | 6 178 18 | 78 4 2 |
| 67 1 2 | 4 789 3 | 5 678 6789 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 79 3 1 | 789 6 5 | 4 2 789 |
| 8 2 67 | 1 4 79 | 679 3 5 |
| 679 4 5 | 3 789 2 | 6789 678 1 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 3 *67 *48 | 2 5 *46+8 | 1 9 *78+6 |
| 2 *67 *48+9 | 789 1789 *46+18 | 3 5 *78+6 |
| 1 5 89 | 789 3 68 | 2 678 4 |
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BUG-Lite(4678)r78c2369 =>r9c6<>8
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(8)r78c6
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(9)r8c3-(9=8)r9c3
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(1)r8c6-(1=8)r2c6
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(6)r78c9-(6=789)als:r9c348 |
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ronk
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 398
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Luke451 wrote: | Thanks for checking that one out, Ron. Are you saying you think the (9)r8c3=(1)r8c6 inference is valid, then? |
Yes, I should have made that clearer. |
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Marty R.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: |
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I used a Type 2 UR (67-8), X-Wing (7), Type 6 UR (18) and XYZ-Wing (679). |
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