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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Puzzle 10/08/24: A |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+ | 3 . . | 8 5 . | . . . |
 | . 8 . | . 2 . | . . 1 |
 | . . . | . . 7 | . . 6 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | 2 . . | . . 5 | 4 . . |
 | 8 3 . | . . 2 | 1 . 5 |
 | . . 5 | 3 6 4 | 2 . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | 5 7 8 | . 1 . |
 | . . . | . . . | 6 5 . |
 | . 5 8 | . 1 . | . . 4 |
 +-----------------------+
 
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		| JC Van Hay 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Jun 2010
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | 7-SIS AIC net : Kraken cell (239)R3C8 : => r7c9=2 
 (2)r3c8-2C9
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 (3)r3c8-3C5-3C3-2R7
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 (9)r3c8-9C7-(92)R7C9
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		| peterj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Two VH moves.. 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | xy-wing(29-7) r7c9 ; r4c8<>7 type 1 UR(67) ; r1c3<>67=2
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| one "almost" move..................... 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | AXY-wing -379 vertex (79)r1c7, pincers (39)r3c8 & (37)r9c7 with fin (2)r3c8 If xy-wing is true plus transport (3)r3c8-r3c5=(3)8c5; r9c6<>3
 If fin is true (2)r3c8-(2=7)r9c8-(7=3)r9c7; r9c6<>3
 
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 Ted
 
 [JC, I just looked at your post and we seemed to  have used similar cells, but I am not familiar with your notation and am therefore not sure except for the one cell.]
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		| JC Van Hay 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ted, here is an equivalent representation of your proof ... So you can completely compare. 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | 5-SIS AIC net : Kraken Cell (239)R3C8 : SIS[(3)r9c7,(3)r8c5] : => r9c6<>3 
 (2)r3c8-(27)R9C8-(73)R9C7 [Fin (2)r3c8]
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 (3)r3c8-3C5 [Transport]
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 (9)r3c8-(97)R1C7-(73)R9C7 [XY Wing -379]
 
 Your target, (3)r9c6 instead of my (9)r7c9, makes the Kraken Cell shorter, needing only 5-SIS !
 Note : the strong inferences (=) are done inside the SIS, while the weak inferences (-) are  done between the SIS.
 
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| JC, 
 Thanks for the info, especially the footnote about the implied strong links.
 
 And yes we had some similar paths.
 
 Ted
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| W-Wing (79). 
 Next and last move can be either the pincer situation from the 12 UR (which I used) or the Type 1 UR on 67.
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