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keith
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 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:52 am Post subject: Another Vanhegan |
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This one has a pattern first noted (at least on this forum) by yours truly many years ago.
| Code: | Puzzle: vH5-1229678f2.2.0.1
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . 6 5 | . 2 . |
| 4 . 6 | 2 8 . | 5 . . |
| . 2 . | 7 . . | . 6 . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 6 . . | 5 . 9 | 4 1 . |
| 1 7 . | . . . | . 5 2 |
| . 4 5 | 1 . 2 | . . 6 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 6 . | . . 7 | . 4 . |
| . . 4 | . 1 8 | 2 . 9 |
| . 1 . | 3 2 . | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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arkietech
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Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 78-3 389 1378 | 4 6 5 | 1389 2 138 |
| 4 a39 6 | 2 8 1 | 5 a39 7 |
| 5 2 18 | 7 9 3 | 18 6 4 |
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| 6 38 2 | 5 7 9 | 4 1 38 |
| 1 7 39 | 8 4 6 | 39 5 2 |
| 89 4 5 | 1 3 2 | 7 89 6 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 2 6 38 | 9 5 7 | 138 4 138 |
|a37 5 4 | 6 1 8 | 2 a37 9 |
| 789 1 789 | 3 2 4 | 6 78 5 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
double skyscraper
3r8c1=r8c8-r2c8=3r2c2 => -3r1c1; stte |
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Clement
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: Another Vanhegan |
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| Also solved by Sashimi Finned X-Wing on 3 in col 18; r1c79<>3. |
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Marty R.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dan, I don't know why your Skyscraper is a double; it's just a Skyscraper to my eyes.
At any rate, that was one of three solutions that I noted. The other two were a Kite on 3 pivoted in box 1 and a flightless XY-Wing on 39-8 pivoted in r5c3.
Clement, I can't see a Sashimi in c18. |
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arkietech
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Marty R. wrote: | | Dan, I don't know why your Skyscraper is a double; it's just a Skyscraper to my eyes. |
I just show one.
Here is the other:
| Code: | *-----------------------------------------------------------*
|a378 389 1378 | 4 6 5 | 1389 2 138 |
| 4 9-3 6 | 2 8 1 | 5 b39 7 |
| 5 2 18 | 7 9 3 | 18 6 4 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 6 38 2 | 5 7 9 | 4 1 38 |
| 1 7 39 | 8 4 6 | 39 5 2 |
| 89 4 5 | 1 3 2 | 7 89 6 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 2 6 38 | 9 5 7 | 138 4 138 |
|a37 5 4 | 6 1 8 | 2 b37 9 |
| 789 1 789 | 3 2 4 | 6 78 5 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
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each solves the puzzle without the other. Sorry of the confusion.  |
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keith
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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After an XY-wing 3-89 in C13,
| Code: | +-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 378 389 37 | 4 6 5 | 139 2 13 |
| 4 39 6 | 2 8 1 | 5 39 7 |
| 5 2 1 | 7 9 3 | 8 6 4 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 6 38 2 | 5 7 9 | 4 1 38 |
| 1 7 39 | 8 4 6 | 39 5 2 |
| 89 4 5 | 1 3 2 | 7 89 6 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 2 6 38 | 9 5 7 | 13 4 138 |
| 37 5 4 | 6 1 8 | 2 37 9 |
| 79 1 789 | 3 2 4 | 6 78 5 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |
There is a type 6 (type 5?) UR 13 that solves R1C9 as 1, etc. You still need a move on 3 to complete the puzzle.
Keith
Last edited by keith on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:25 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Clement
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Marty R. wrote: | Dan, I don't know why your Skyscraper is a double; it's just a Skyscraper to my eyes.
At any rate, that was one of three solutions that I noted. The other two were a Kite on 3 pivoted in box 1 and a flightless XY-Wing on 39-8 pivoted in r5c3.
Clement, I can't see a Sashimi in c18. |
When using the"fin"or "filleting"rule it is permissible for the x-wing to be missing a corner in the finned box. The fin 39 is in r2c8 in BOX 3 (the finned box). The missing corner is in r1c8(the given 2).
The elimination: If r2c8=3; r1c79<>3. If not then r8c8=3; r8c1<3> r1c1=3; r1c79<>3 which solves it. |
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Marty R.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| keith wrote: | After an XY-wing 3-89 in C13,
| Code: | +-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 378 389 37 | 4 6 5 | 139 2 13 |
| 4 39 6 | 2 8 1 | 5 39 7 |
| 5 2 1 | 7 9 3 | 8 6 4 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 6 38 2 | 5 7 9 | 4 1 38 |
| 1 7 39 | 8 4 6 | 39 5 2 |
| 89 4 5 | 1 3 2 | 7 89 6 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 2 6 38 | 9 5 7 | 13 4 138 |
| 37 5 4 | 6 1 8 | 2 37 9 |
| 79 1 789 | 3 2 4 | 6 78 5 |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+ |
There is a type 6 (type 5?) UR 13 that solves R1C9 as 1, etc. You still need a move on 3 to complete the puzzle.
Keith |
Keith,
It can be solved by one of my favorite techniques, creating pincers from the killer possibilities. The 8 proves 9 in r5c3; r5c7<>9 |
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keith
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Marty R. wrote: |
Keith,
It can be solved by one of my favorite techniques, creating pincers from the killer possibilities. The 8 proves 9 in r5c3; r5c7<>9 |
Marty,
Yes. But do not forget you are standing on the shoulders of midgets. 
The original UR + X-wing was deemed a tough nut at the time.
Keith |
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