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"too hard" — champagne # 196 # 124

 
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Pat



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: "too hard" — champagne # 196 # 124 Reply with quote


    .....1..2....3.45...3....61....7.....2.8.69..6...1..28.9..8.5...51..4...4.6..7...

    [ play ]
Code:


 . . . | . . 1 | . . 2
 . . . | . 3 . | 4 5 .
 . . 3 | . . . | . 6 1
-------+-------+------
 . . . | . 7 . | . . .
 . 2 . | 8 . 6 | 9 . .
 6 . . | . 1 . | . 2 8
-------+-------+------
 . 9 . | . 8 . | 5 . .
 . 5 1 | . . 4 | . . .
 4 . 6 | . . 7 | . . .

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arkietech



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not "To Hard" can be solved with a quad. Very Happy
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keith



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice puzzle.

Keith
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't remember the specifics about the quad, but it was basics only.
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Pat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arkietech wrote:
can be solved with a quad

yes, one quad
— plus how many trios ?
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:
arkietech wrote:
can be solved with a quad

yes, one quad
— plus how many trios ?

As I recall there were a lot of them and at the very start of the puzzle.
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Pat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


    this puzzle seems to need 4 heavy moves

    ( heavy — in the context of "basic" moves — means: trio-or-larger )

      is this a new record
      or have we seen such before?

      ( compare with JPF # 51 # 80 which needs 2 trios )
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keith



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat wrote:

    this puzzle seems to need 4 heavy moves

    ( heavy — in the context of "basic" moves — means: trio-or-larger )

      is this a new record
      or have we seen such before?

      ( compare with JPF # 51 # 80 which needs 2 trios )


Pat,

Yes: It "needs"
R7 Triple
C7 Triple
B9 Quad
C9 Triple

At the last move there is also an R9 Triple that does not help.

Keith
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