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		| hughwill 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:18 am    Post subject: Aug 16 VH |   |  
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				| After basics (Though some may have been missed):  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 9   1367 136   | 2   17   5    | 8   13   4    |
 | 2   8    14    | 39  1479 1349 | 6   5    179  |
 | 347 5    134   | 6   1479 8    | 379 2    1379 |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 36  136  7     | 89  1289 129  | 4   1369 5    |
 | 5   2    19    | 4   3    6    | 79  8    179  |
 | 8   1346 13469 | 7   5    19   | 2   1369 139  |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 367 3679 8     | 1   269  239  | 5   4    2    |
 | 34  349  5     | 389 2489 2349 | 1   7    6    |
 | 1   46   2     | 5   46   7    | 39  39   8    |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 
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 Couldn't find anything better than 34-6 XY-Wing pivot r8c1 followed (after
 a bunch of basics some of which may not be needed) by successive X-Wings
 on 3 and 1 both on r14, the second of which could also be done through a type
 1 UR. Complicated without being very satisfying....
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		| the_lock_man 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Aug 16 VH |   |  
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				|  	  | hughwill wrote: |  	  | After basics (Though some may have been missed):  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 9   1367 136   | 2   17   5    | 8   13   4    |
 | 2   8    14    | 39  1479 1349 | 6   5    179  |
 | 347 5    134   | 6   1479 8    | 379 2    1379 |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 36  136  7     | 89  1289 129  | 4   1369 5    |
 | 5   2    19    | 4   3    6    | 79  8    179  |
 | 8   1346 13469 | 7   5    19   | 2   1369 139  |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 367 3679 8     | 1   269  239  | 5   4    2    |
 | 34  349  5     | 389 2489 2349 | 1   7    6    |
 | 1   46   2     | 5   46   7    | 39  39   8    |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Couldn't find anything better than 34-6 XY-Wing pivot r8c1 followed (after
 a bunch of basics some of which may not be needed) by successive X-Wings
 on 3 and 1 both on r14, the second of which could also be done through a type
 1 UR. Complicated without being very satisfying....
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 Definitely some basics missing, Hugh. There's a 2 in R7C56, which can't be there, due to the 2 in R7C9. This then gives you a hidden pair 28 in C5, but I'm not actually certain if this contributed to me solving the puzzle or not.
 
 I found the XY wing you refer to (possibly plus some other basics) opened up a W-Wing 19 in boxes 4 & 5, with a strong link on 1 in C9, meaning R6C3 <>9. From there, it's STTE.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The XY-Wing and the X-Wing on 3 did it for me. |  | 
	
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		| JC Van Hay 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| 13 Singles 1-Fish{3B2, 3B9, 9B9, 9C3} -> -{3rr2c39, 3r9c2, 9r9c25, 9r46c2}
 
 3-Fish{1C2, 1R5, 1C8} -> -{1r1c35, 1r6c39}; stte 	  | Code: |  	  | +---------------------+-----------------+--------------------+ | 9    367(1)  36-1   | 2    7-1   5    | 8    3(1)    4     |
 | 2    8       14     | 39   1479  1349 | 6    5       179   |
 | 347  5       134    | 6    1479  8    | 379  2       1379  |
 +---------------------+-----------------+--------------------+
 | 36   36(1)   7      | 89   1289  129  | 4    369(1)  5     |
 | 5    2       9(1)   | 4    3     6    | 79   8       79(1) |
 | 8    346(1)  3469-1 | 7    5     19   | 2    369(1)  39-1  |
 +---------------------+-----------------+--------------------+
 | 367  3679    8      | 1    69    39   | 5    4       2     |
 | 34   349     5      | 389  2489  2349 | 1    7       6     |
 | 1    46      2      | 5    46    7    | 39   39      8     |
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 or
 
 2-Fish{4C16} -> -{4r2c3, 4r3c5}; stte 	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------------+--------------------+-----------------+ | 9      1367  136   | 2    17     5      | 8    13    4    |
 | 2      8     1-4   | 39   1479   139(4) | 6    5     179  |
 | 37(4)  5     134   | 6    179-4  8      | 379  2     1379 |
 +--------------------+--------------------+-----------------+
 | 36     136   7     | 89   1289   129    | 4    1369  5    |
 | 5      2     19    | 4    3      6      | 79   8     179  |
 | 8      1346  13469 | 7    5      19     | 2    1369  139  |
 +--------------------+--------------------+-----------------+
 | 367    3679  8     | 1    69     39     | 5    4     2    |
 | 3(4)   349   5     | 389  2489   239(4) | 1    7     6    |
 | 1      46    2     | 5    46     7      | 39   39    8    |
 +--------------------+--------------------+-----------------+
 
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		| yeoks 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 9   1367 136   | 2   17   5    | 8   13   4    |
 | 2   8    14    | 39  1479 1349 | 6   5    179  |
 | 347 5    134   | 6   1479 8    | 379 2    1379 |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 36  136  7     | 89  1289 129  | 4   1369 5    |
 | 5   2    19    | 4   3    6    | 79  8    179  |
 | 8   1346 13469 | 7   5    19   | 2   1369 139  |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 | 367 3679 8     | 1   69   39   | 5   4    2    |
 | 34  349  5     | 389 2489 2349 | 1   7    6    |
 | 1   46   2     | 5   46   7    | 39  39   8    |
 +----------------+---------------+---------------+
 
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 Skyscraper 4 on C16; r2c3<>4; stte.
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		| Ema Nymton 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:19 pm    Post subject: Stumped |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 9   137  6    | 2   17   5    | 8   13  4    |
 | 2   8    14   | 39  1479 349  | 6   5   179  |
 | 347 5    134  | 6   1479 8    | 379 2   1379 |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 6   13   7    | 89  28   129  | 4   139 5    |
 | 5   2    19   | 4   3    6    | 79  8   179  |
 | 8   134  1349 | 7   5    19   | 2   6   139  |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 37  3679 8    | 1   69   39   | 5   4   2    |
 | 34  349  5    | 389 28   2349 | 1   7   6    |
 | 1   46   2    | 5   46   7    | 39  39  8    |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 
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 Stumped.  I must be overlooking something.  But what?
 
 Please help.
 
 Thanx in advance.
 
 Ema Nymton
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumped |   |  
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				|  	  | Ema Nymton wrote: |  	  |  	  | Code: |  	  | +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 9   137  6    | 2   17   5    | 8   13  4    |
 | 2   8    14   | 39  1479 349  | 6   5   179  |
 | 347 5    134  | 6   1479 8    | 379 2   1379 |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 6   13   7    | 89  28   129  | 4   139 5    |
 | 5   2    19   | 4   3    6    | 79  8   179  |
 | 8   134  1349 | 7   5    19   | 2   6   139  |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 | 37  3679 8    | 1   69   39   | 5   4   2    |
 | 34  349  5    | 389 28   2349 | 1   7   6    |
 | 1   46   2    | 5   46   7    | 39  39  8    |
 +---------------+---------------+--------------+
 
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 Stumped.  I must be overlooking something.  But what?
 
 Please help.
 
 Thanx in advance.
 
 Ema Nymton
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 Hello Ema,
 
 Your grid shows that r4c1 is solved for 6, but that cell should be 36. The 36 enables the 36-4 XY-Wing which is a good first step.
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